I like 3rd Strike, and I like the SF4 series.
Deal with it?
This is the hilarious illogic I was referring to.
Also plenty of fighting games have had patches that affected balance that didn’t magically change the title of the game.
He said that a rebalance would be cool and he would play it, as long as they don’t label it as 3rd Strike.
Not to put words in trollthissrk’s mouth, but I think hes probably talking about the hypothetical “4th strike” rebalanced sequel rather than a rebalancing of 3s itself. It seems like most 3s fans are fine with the idea of an updated, rebalanced sequel of sorts, but they just don’t want 3s changed to…not 3s. (please correct me if I’m putting words in your mouth BTW)
(I’m my own words now) it’s like if, say Hyper Fighting was given the Online edition treatment, but characters were rebalanced and such. It would say “hyper fighting” on the tin, but what you’d actually GET is NOT hyper fighting, you’re getting a new version of SFII.
3S fans wanted a definitive version of 3S to play online. Not a new version of street fighter III, just straight up 3s version. Yes, it needs tweaks, but tweaking would make it NOT 3S.
TLDR: people are fine with a rebalance, just call it 4th strike or some shit.
I’m all for trying new things, but sometimes there are things in your life you don’t want to change, and if one of them happens to be a sandwich that brings you immense amount of joy for whatever reason it does(memories, comfort, whatever), is it not reasonable to just want it to stay the same way you remember it?
Really? The community (that is, 3rd Strike fans) wants 3rd Strike on a new console so they can use their TE sticks, not dig out their PS2s with poor ported versions, and play online with GGPO. If we want this, and not 3rd Strike plus (a new game that none of us will have played), we’re at fault somehow?
We want 3rd Strike because we know what it is, and fans know that they’ll like it. It’s like comfort food for us. We don’t have to subscribe to some ideal that a theoretically more balanced 3rd Strike will be more fun (a theoretical project which may not turn out the way the community wants anyway: see HDR), and we don’t need to “be at fault” for liking the game in its current state, warts and all.
As has been said, go ahead and rebalance 3rd Strike. Call it a new game and release it as a separate title. I’ll probably buy it, and I’ll play it when I want to play the new version. Right now, I want to play 3rd Strike, with my TE stick, on GGPO. And some people want to make me feel guilty about that, for some inexplicable reason.
here’s some advice for you. when you see a thread that bashes 3s, a game which you hate, ignore it because you’re wasting your time. see how hard it is? so when i see your shitty av i have to read what you say since you and all the other 3s haters are trying to discourage new players from trying the game. please let us be.
I have a better analogy. Imagine you’re at that same restaurant, eating that same sandwich that you fucking love and the chef comes up to you and says,
“Hey… ummm… this is awkward, but… my assistant has been putting pubes in that sandwich for the last ten years and I caught him doing it today, you wanna try that sandwich without the pubes?”
You say “oh, I know… I noticed the pubes about a year into it and just really fucking loved the sandwich and didn’t want to stir the boat by bringing it up.”
“Oh… ok… so do you want me to take out the pubes or…”
“No, I’m good.”
“Wait, what?”
“Yeah, I feel like the pubes make enjoying the sandwich just that much more rewarding.”
so thats it
3s fans just love the taste of pubes
Made my night
ok that made me laugh but it’s a bad analogy. it may be a good one for you personally but bad balance for some people is challenging and fun. so you and the sirlin crew obviously think unbalanced fighters is the worst thing in the world so yeah, for you it’s like pubes in you’re sandwich, while for others it’s like onions or tomato’s or something else that they don’t love but don’t mind so much.
That’s quite subjective.
Yeah, the community got what they wanted, but they should have asked for more. As has been said, the game has serious and fixable issues, so why not fix them?
Sirlin not liking the game isn’t really relevant to the issue he wants to bring attention to, and I think he shouldn’t have even bothered mentioning it in the article. In any case, the reason it concerns him is because of the message it sends to the game developers. It tells them, “we don’t want better games”, when we should want better games.
Only missing the fact 2 or 3 of the times he ordered the sandwich, the mustard overpowered the taste of pubes for the first few bites.
Jesus! I didn’t need to read any of that!
It’s more like, maybe, the Star Wars: Super CGI Editions. Lots of people would rather just have the old non-special ones.
The thing about rebalancing an old and ‘developed’ game is that you’ll never get anyone to agree what constitutes an improvement. See: HDR.
I’m kind of curious about what sorts of things the anti-rebalancing ‘purist’ crowd would accept in a 4th Strike. Not the specifics, but like… new moves? New characters? Even, dare I say, changes to the way parries work?
thread defeated?
I can’t speak for Hecatom, but the Daigo parry, while one of the most hype moments in fighting game history, was by no means a great display of awesome skill, nor does it prove how “awesome” 3S is. Daigo made a good read, tapped forward 17 times, then hit a combo.
Wasn’t this thread supposed to be about the idea of updating fighting games?
The original Star Wars trilogy had no actual glaring problems though. The closest thing to Chun and Yun would be… ewoks?
Only if one of those new characters is Eagle.
Ewok nerfs would be acceptable for return of the jedi HDR.
They make the movie more challenging and rewarding…?