Silly Fleshings!: The Shuma-Gorath Team Building Thread

Greetings,
I love Shuma-Gorath and would love to make a team with both Shuma and Strange together. I was in the lab with them for a while, Shuma backed by bolts or EoA is good, as well as Strange backed by mystic ray. I was even trying Hyper Mystic Ray combos with eyes on into SoV, and theoretically at the end of SoV, they were supposed to fall back down dude to the eyes so I could do a FoF loop, but alas, hitstun turns me into the victim.

Anyway, I was wondering if you guys could help create some suggestions for me, so I can learn what to do from here. I am looking for a character that can use Shuma’s eyes to their advantage. I would appreciate any help I can get. :slight_smile:
Thanks.

You can hard tag into FoF loops from Shuma’s bnb if you’re near enough to the corner - no supers required. Shuma with bolts is excellent. I think shuma/strange(bolts)/ammy is one of the very best point shuma teams. You could also try Dante (jam or weasel) or Dorm (black hole) in the ammy spot

Thank you! I am always lost when it comes to Ammy though. I never liked her as an achor due to her relying entirely on X Factor…

Hey guys, so I’ve been messing around with what I want to be my secondary team and I would love some feedback from Shuma players. I want to start using Jill (ss) / Chris (mine) / Shuma (ray). I realized the other night that LVL XF3 Shuma does a ton of damage with basic combos, no meter. But I find I can’t close the distance on opponents when Shuma is my last man standing. Do you have any tips or strategies for getting in with anchor Shuma?

there really aren’t any. you have to be patient, land the hit on their first character, xfc cancel and kill them, then you can set up the incoming characters.

How does Shuma work with Vajra assist? I’ve started running Haggar/Shuma/Strider and I find myself more and more impressed with the little squid dude each match. His winquote for Vergil just takes the cake though:
“YOU ARE AN EMBARRASSMENT TO DEMONS EVERYWHERE!”

What do you guys think about Shuma(Mystic Ray)/Dr. Strange (Bolts of Baltnakk)/ Dormammu(Dark Hole) - Dr. strange team ! :smiley:
I think they can have good synergy (maybe not a very good)
Shuma can always DHC into Strange.
Strange has good Loops (difficult but they do good damage)
Dormammu in my opinion is the best Anchor of the three.

So what do you guys feel about them? Are they a good team? or maybe i should look into another characters?

Just working on my Chun(y)/Shuma(y)/Akuma(b) team. I use Mystic Smash assist to maximize damage for my chun and the mixups are decent. the mystic ray isn’t very helpful with Chun combos though :frowning:

Also, I can follow up after Mystic Stare>Hyper Mystic Ray>Kikosho with an Air EX SBK afterwards and get another super or mixup. I think this team may benefit more with Shuma on point though…

I’ve been working on a main team with point Shuma. Possibly with Hsienko as second as i want a lockdown assist but don’t really like other characters with lockdown stuff but her. Also Ive been thinking about making a sub team with Shuma on anchor though. I’ve seen Angelic use Dormammu/Shuma on his team. I like Dorm a lot, so I’ve been thinking of trying this. Maybe She-Hulk/Dorm/Shuma.

Can anyone tell me the ways Shuma/Hsien-ko and dorm/shuma might work well together?

I really like this idea. You could start it as HsienKo/Dorm/Shuma and then hard tag To Shuma. So then you’d have HsienKo backed by Dark Hole and Mystic Ray and build a meter for a Gold Armor DHC> Stalking Flare setup. Or you could do the same thing but have Dormammu with purification assist and then hard tag to Shuma with Gold Armor Senpu Bu and Purification variable assists for ridiculous Shuma mixups.

Alot of possibilities I see in this team :slight_smile:

I feel like theietheir synergy comes frkmfrom the comics. They do work very well together and can DHC into touch of deaths from anything.

Can anyone suggest characters who make the best use out of Shuma’s Mystic Ray assist both as cover and as an OTG? His OTg is a little awkward because it’s rather slow after a j.S so are there any characters who can juggle the opponent enough to be closer to the ground to land a littler earlier and make use of Mystic Ray assist?

Wolverine, Spencer, and Spider-Man love Mystic Ray. Wesker and Dorm can make good use of it also.

Those are the characters I’ve personally experimented with thus far (well not with Wolverine but we’ve all seen what Angelic does with that assist, so I don’t think I need to personally experiment with it).

I enjoy using him but Ghost Rider LOVES Mysitc Ray, it helps suspend people in the air after confirming any normal long enough to convert into a combo. You’d have to be batshit enough to run him in the first place though.

Thanks guys, I’ve actually been running a new Amaterasu (Cold Star), Dormammu (Dark Hole), Shuma Gorath (Mystic Ray) team and it’s been working really well so far. Mystic ray assist actually can annoy Zero a fair bit when flying around freely :V

Normally Shuma is the 3rd character but in the times I’ve swapped him out with Ammy I’ve made use of air mystic smash + Cold star assist to make a very annoyingly hard to block setup on the opponent as the assist has a slight pause while shuma’s smash can travel above and across behind the opponent as they are blocking. Depending on the timing of the smash you can mess with how and when the opponent tries to block on what side because of the pause for cold star (sometimes you need to adjust it completely for taller characters like Sentinel)

Funnily enough I’ve only seen Angelics matches not long after I decided on this team because I kinda missed a lot of the Mahvel matches at evo this year (still very new to mahvel and not that interested in it until now). His Dormammu and Shuma have gave me some ideas for my own and some ideas I can make work with Ammy on point.

What do you guys think of Dormammu (Dark Hole)/Morrigan (meter building assist)/Shuma Gorath (Mystic Ray)?

I would think Dormammu with S. Gorath’s assist would help Dormammu zone better and he has Morrigan’s assist to help him build a ton of meter for stalking flares to go out.

Also, when Morrigan comes in, she can do her Soul Fist zoning with Mystic Ray helping her out.

Eh, I’d switch it to Morrigan/Dorm. Dormammu has problems when starting the fight right out of the gate (especially without a get off me assist a la Haggar/Akuma/etc). Morrigan has some decent options for the opening gambit, plus she has an invincible super which can be used to cover Dormammu if you want to DHC into Stalking Flare and start up Dorm zoning (where you can abuse Morrigans meter building assist for more Stalking Flares and DHCs into Astral Vision if you want to go back to Morrigan). Granted Morrigan and Dorm zoning isn’t nearly as good with Mystic Ray as it is with Doom missiles, but if you want to use Shuma don’t let me stop you.

That’s just my two cents, if you want to go with Dorm/Morrigan instead by all means do that.

Any thoughts on ShumAkuma (Shakuma? hmm…need to think of a good name for it :V) I’ve had them as Middile/Anchor originally for my Phoenix Wright team but would like to try combining them with a different point character like Haggar, Dormammu or Firebrand.

Tatsu assist helps give some lock down to keep the opponent close for pressure using crouching attacks and a means to start Mystic Stare loops for Shuma.

^^^^ ghost rider, ryu, wolverine, wesker, ???, etc.,

Ghost rider with them sounds interesting and a nightmare for characters that use armored moves like hulk or sent.

I’ve been messing with Dormammu on point a few times to try combat some Morridoom stuff (or just doom assist in general because Mystic Ray is good for getting loads of projectiles off screen) Defo gonna give GR a shot though.