Shoryureppa! The Ken Thread

Method 1: Jump in-HK, Super(since it hits on the first frame)

Method 2: Anti-Air

Method 3:Crossup, crouching lkx2, kara-cancel into super(lk+lp)

Method 4:Anti Air Fierce Shoryuken, juggle into super(strict timing on this one)

Method 5: In reaction to a move

These are really the only ways I know how to hit someone with Ken’s super, but have you seen the recovery time on this thing yet. I try to hit Ken the moment he hits the ground, and then I get smacked in the face with a shoryuken… the fuck?

confirmable link off low strong on big characters (sets up usual mixup on block)

confirmable post knee bash with safe jump short, low short x super (again sets up usual mixup on block)

crossunder post kneebash short short super

crossunder feint post knee bash short short super

mainly against ryu and ken, but juice kick preemptively over fireball to super (or knee bash/shoryu if you don’t have meter)

the fact that it’s so confirmable makes it fun.

When he touches ground it has the same recovery as his other srk’s meaning 3 frames, hit him in the air or air throw him.

Yep. Yet another tactic that is only done for the sake of online. If Ken lands after Fierce Shoryuken or Super right next to me offline, he’s getting at least a 3 hit combo easy, if not a Super combo. And ground throws are no problem either.

Also, worst Super is easily Zangief. I would sometimes go a whole day of playing without ever using it once. = /

Desperation mode: whiff super into throw FTW!

You would be surprised at how often it works if the opponent goes for ground throw.

I am not talking EMPTY jump in. Reading is fundamental. Do you EVER (maybe once in a blue moon) see short, short into super by any of the high level Kens? When I see people use it successfully at high level then I’ll change my mind, as it stands it’s not worthless, just one of the crappiest. Besides Hawk/Gief and Blanka he has the worst IMO. Deny it some more if it makes you feel like a bigger man or if my opnion really irritates you… well I don’t really give a damn :-p

Ohh yeah and confirmable being FUN doesn’t mean it’s good NOR practical.

Yeah i’ve seen ken’s hit confirm into it, off the top of my head, i’ve seen damdai and westcyde do it. I’ve been hit by it before online too, though it was probably hado69 or his bro viixiii that used it on me.

I personally can’t do it, but if you hit confirm it than yes its a really good super.

I mean I’ve seen it and can do it, but its not that common at all. At the highest level thou (as the theory fighter goes) it is not reliable enough even with the hit confirm. Yeah it’s cool and flashy and great to pop in random matches, but are you going to put it all on the line to win the prize? I don’t think so. It’s bottom 4 maybe 6 (prove it thou) supers. We can keep saying how it can be used here and there, but those times are not common place enough for it to be accepted as a good super, when ST and this game is STILL all about getting super and using them in almost every match (maybe not every round, but CLOSE). I don’t think you will see Ken using his super once in every 2 out of 3 rounds… Not even close.

Super as anti-air into Fierce Shoryu is something to look into :wink:

People told me the same thing before I practiced the hell out of cr.:lk: XX :mp: Hundred Hand Slap -> Ochio combos… Then someone told Sirlin that I broke his game.

Point is, just because you don’t see it every match doesn’t mean that it’s not a good tool to practice. Besides, the really great Kens do that a lot. I think you need to watch more videos or play some better Ken players.

Now that combo is nice you do lol. Very effective in matches in general. Stop breaking the game! Ohh yeah I agree to practice everything and find the best techniques that fit each persons playing style. I still haven’t seen the great (japanese) Ken’s to it “a lot”. It’s super rare out of the 100’s of videos I’ve seen of Ken. Are people doing it in the american HDR world, maybe they are doing it more, but I just don’t think it’s something that people in the East have missed. I think it boils down to effeciency and not losing a match because you missed Ken’s super. You can’t afford to rely on tactics that are not the optimum. I love a good hurricane kick to the face, but as it now stands it is apparently it’s not that great with Ken… but I still love doing it.

i do short short super all the time, among other ways of setting the super up. don’t bother watching mattsun, the shenanigan king, because he doesn’t do it AT ALL sarcasm

i didn’t bother reading all of what you said but you sound like a fucking moron. if you don’t want to up your game and figure ways to land/confirm into ken’s super then fine, but i’d appreciate it if you stop complaing about how YOU can’t make use of the super. this isn’t a fucking support group.

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why would being able to confirm into a super for big damage not be good or practical? your word is NOT solid, not only are you giving people the wrong idea by whining, but you sound like a scrub on top of it.

Ken’s super sucks.

Did you read that one or are you only half reading my posts? If so you’d get “Ken sucks” or “Ken’s super” or maybe a combination of “Kepercks”?

I think I heard: “Every once in a while I land short short into super on random people so it’s perfectly fine at the highest level” … wow Ken’s super is top tier and he’s ready for the big leagues.

Do us both a favor and please piss off.

i think you need to look up what “confirming” and “mixup” means, because the first leads to the ladder when confirming into super with ken. you shouldn’t be hellbent on landing the super once you get meter, but you SHOULD know how when the opportunity presents itself. why is that not a good thing to know how to do? how is that not useful? god you’re such an idiot. once again, this isn’t a fucking support group to complain, so if you’re not going to try and learn and up your game then stop bitching and get the fuck out please.

Ohh no please explain to me the meaning of all these big words. I’m soo hellbent on just THROWING my super out there. Maybe you can hit confirm all this knowledge into my wee little brain?

I never said that KNOWING these things is not good, but I will say it again so you can CLEARLY understand: Ken’s super = BOTTOM of the barrel. Not that it’s worthless, but that it is one of THE worst. That is a fact, not the musings of a nub. All of your SPARSE hit confirms on random newbs are not going to make this fact go away. Keep on with the name calling cause people listen to you, just like they do at work. You are so dense!

You are right in one thing thou: I am complaining a lil too much about it, for that I am ‘sorry’.

you’ve convinced me, his super sucks. everyone, don’t bother learning how to use it because it sucks. i am so dense, my eyes are opened. thank you for this revelation. time to kill myself, so my stupidity won’t infect future generations.

darwin was right, and so are you. i love you.

You took it there…

and yes I was complaining too much :-/

my bad as I am too old to be arguing over the internet about stupid stuff

You are the only one whom I have ever heard say that ken’s super is trash tier.

You must be the best ken ever!

If by trash tier you mean being above Blanka, Gief and Hawk, then I must be the first and only to admit his rightful placing. If it takes an amazing Ken to understand Ken’s super’s tier level then by all means I claim the title of best Ken ever. I will proudly stand alone on this one!

His super is hit confirmable and hits on the first frame. You have no idea what you are talking about.