I don’t think anyone knows for sure yet Dave. Though I think it would be pretty sweet if her HP reflect worked similar to Sakura’s ex tatsu in the corner. It would work pretty sweet for corner resets and add some nice versatility to Rose, specially with Ultra 2 selected.
i was playing a gouken the other week and juggled him into ultra from a reflected hadou (gouken’s have juggle potential). i felt that it would add a lot of flavor to rose’s gameplay if her sparks or reflected projectiles (all kinds) were given that property too. i mean, sagat already gets to do retarded things with his tiger shots, why not rose? lol.
Because Japan is phallocentric
Just what I’ve been thinking. Guessing it’s just that reflect sets up a free juggle state rather than st having inherit juggle potential. Could set up some nice resets in the corner?
Also dave you can do that combo now with a trade, maj did spark xx super trade with dhal cr.lp ultra in fun with sf4 but obviously that was because it hit before the knock down hit. Just thought you might be interested.
Combos after it would be awesome, very alpha-esc.
At the event in London last week, Dieminion did Refelct FADC ultra 1 so it does seem to work on Juggle now.
So now we know that it has juggle properties, but reflect’s bounce is higher than most other bounces.
We’ll wait if we can do it after a super.
I tried just now , and no u cant
- You tried with fierce reflect? If so that’s pretty disappointing, I was actually looking forward to combo quite a bit. *
No we don’t as I said reflect could jut be a free juggle set up like a sakura ex hurrcane kick you can juggle with anything even a normal (they have no juggle potential(bar sagat f+rh)). Like kens first hit of ultra has no juggle potential but hits off of the free juggle set up created by a counter hit hp shoryuken. So the ultra could still have no juggle potential.
vid or stfu. don’t come in here trying to break our spirits.
vid or stfu. don’t come in here trying to break our spirits.
I want to reconfirm this statement. It does not work as it was told to me by a primary source.
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the goodthing about this is it means ultra two and st have juggle potential, or it could be ultra 1 has too much startup but I doubt it.
maybe maybe maybe super can combo into U1 now, maybe? Honestly, if U1 can’t be combo’d off of reflect, then well that’s not going to change how I play Rose; so no loss (maybe).
Like the single-minded strategy for using U1 was to get a person to jump/do something punishable. But if U1 were comboable off of reflect, I don’t think I’d consider punishing moves/jumps as the primary use for it. It also sounds kind of weird. Like they say with grapplers “It’s all about setting up that 360”, to say for Rose “it’s all about setting up that reflect into U1” just doesn’t sound right.
Here’s to hoping it works though.
If not, then we can put in concrete: U1 = punish ultra, U2 = combo ultra
I guess I just need to wait for frame data to arrive.
I believe Projectjustice has the game and has tested these combos.
A huge bummer that U1 no longer connects to Reflect FADC.
can anyone tell me if they buffed the damage on mk and hk SSpiral. Im assuming they didnt but hoping that maybe it just hasn’t been said yet.
I palyed some Rose today and Alioune is right, no reflect FADC U1, the build we played must not have been final the other week. What I will say is Rose looks really good, with Ultra 2. As an example one challenge mode combo was j.hp, U2 (on hit), s.hk, s.hk, lp spiral. You could add Super if you wanted to also. Juggles into soul throw are also nice.
I asked johnnyturk on his live stream, and the Spirals all do 100 dmg.
Yeah I always thought it was stupid she didn’t have it because reflect is really not usable by itself so it would be no real threat not like a srk fadc.
But there’s also a lot less risk to using reflect offensively than srk. If a person doesn’t FADC SRK accidentally, they’re at the other’s mercy while reflect is safe enough on block.
I’d love me some new (real) juggles though…