{ ShellExecute ('Iron_Avenger.exe') } //UMvC3 Iron Man combo thread

badonkadonk · May 20, 2012, 5:11pm

or you could just press :s: and :h: at the same time after the qcb and make this part a lot easier

Graphf · May 21, 2012, 7:36am

There are a bunch of different ways to approach that from piano tap inputs to holding down S while pressing H and so on, . In the end it’s just timing and precise inputs.

I started off fudging it a lot just hoping my fingers figured it out. That wasn’t working well. Then I took a bit to slow it down and now it’s much more clean and reliable.

Here are the tough parts of the combo with some advice for each part:
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[]:d::h: xx Fly (Confirming into this to get it going - practice confirming off tridash j., :d::l:'s, etc.)
[]j.:h: (Linking the first j. after the fly - just grind it out in training mode)
[]Unfly, j.:h: (Precise inputs to get the unfly, and then get the j.:h: out on time as you fall - check your input data and be precise)
[]Land, Jump Up+Forward (If you’re in the corner against small characters, it can be much easier timing-wise to jump straight up - just have to remember your screen position)
[]j.:d::h::s: (Delay the :s: after the :d::h: against smaller/floatier characters to bring them closer to the ground before you land - have to eyeball it and know which characters cause issues. For example, Wesker can be slippery here for no good reason)
[]Land, :d::h::s: Pursuit j.:h::d::h::s: Land (This is the easiest part, magic series heyo). You can add the extra air dash up portion here too if you’re comfortable with it, but I find that taxes HSD to make the assist extensions more difficult.
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At this point you either do assist extensions or just OTG into super, or reset, or whatever.

I just finished learning the KK combo and wanted to let you know that this post really helped me out a lot. Thanks for breaking the combo apart like this.

Took me about 3 days at about an 1 hour a day. Just a heads up if you are trying to learn this an struggling, practice makes perfect!

FuLLBLeeD · May 21, 2012, 9:43am

Unibeam can be punished on block in most situations up close by light attacks, need to train myself to confirm into c.H in blockstrings, which is +4.

Danke · May 21, 2012, 11:22am

cr.h will get mashed out hard.

AceKillah · May 21, 2012, 11:26am

They can mash through 5H chained into 2H?

FuLLBLeeD · May 21, 2012, 11:27am

s.H, c.H or s.H, c.H xx flight in a blockstring should be safe though?

And yes I’m talking chaining s.H to c.H on block instead of unibeam.

If you can really mash through that that’s fucking balls.

Danke · May 21, 2012, 11:41am

I could be wrong but I think dependent on distance they can punish if they push block the st.h. Also oftentimes st.h will whiff after a push blocked cr.m and going into unibeam is the safest way to fix that. I’m sure it’s good sometimes though.

McTease · May 21, 2012, 9:45pm

I’d say canceling st.H (whiff or hit) into fly is your best bet. If you get a hit while your opponent is in the air you can easily confirm it into KK otherwise if it gets blocked you’re safe. What do I know though.

EDIT: Just tested out the st.H xx cr.H blockstring; you actually can’t mash through it.

EDIT2: Also, I’m more than sure Iron Man’s best corner combo (sans assists) is cr.M, st.H, S, j.H, j.d+H, ADD, j.H, land, j.H, j.d+H, j.S, L Smart Bombs, cr.M, S, j.M, j.M, j.H, j.d+H, j.S, H Smart Bombs xx Super.

Does a little over 35,000 more than the KK (if you start with cr.M, st.H xx fly)

Hopefully all this information is somewhat relevant and I’m not playing an outdated Iron Man.

FuLLBLeeD · May 21, 2012, 11:18pm

Everyone knows Iron Man’s best blockstring is c.M, S!

In all seriousness thanks for doing that, I do think c.H has some utility for counter hit setups but I need to test it more myself.

Blackstarr · May 22, 2012, 1:56am

No they can’t mash out of it. I tested it awhile back with ammy who has the fastest jab in the game and she can’t beat it so yeah.

dust · May 22, 2012, 2:39am

Is this true???

bloodabeast · May 22, 2012, 11:51am

So after grinding it out in the lab on my stream (thanks to a viewer) I was able to finally break 800k (getting at 872k) using krispy kream with drones and hyper grav assist. Man this combo is so fucking good.

Anything I should learn next guys?

FuLLBLeeD · May 22, 2012, 10:08pm

So I was in training mode looking for hit confirms off stray j.H…and they basically don’t exist. The ones that do involve an ADDF which is incredibly inconsistent at best. Its so frustrating that one of this character’s best assets is his normals and he can’t even convert off them that easily.

I can do basic variations of everything but can’t find anything to carry them down the ground for a relaunch that isn’t the one that has ADDF and is wonky as hell.

j.H, j.dH ADD j.H and then going for two jump loops seems like the most consistent so far.

Danke · May 22, 2012, 11:27pm

H addf H, fly j.mdh, add, h, unfly h repulsar blast has been working for me.

FuLLBLeeD · May 22, 2012, 11:33pm

TY I’ll try this one.

bloodabeast · May 22, 2012, 11:39pm

which repulsor blast are you doing? lately i’ve been doin repulsor and that shit works like ez mode

Danke · May 22, 2012, 11:54pm

I always just do l, and I guess my edits didnt work but i meant addf instead of add, although add works to depending on distance. I don’t really have a set confirm I kind of just bring them down by intuition, never under estimate how much hitstun unfly h gives you to land and repulsar. For the most part though as I’ve said in the past, if they are in the air you don’t want to be.

FuLLBLeeD · May 23, 2012, 12:54am

I never though of using Repulsar. It makes so much sense now because as long as you can get close to the ground you can catch them with Repulsar, and even follow it up well if you are close to the corner.

McTease · May 23, 2012, 11:41am

What’s the optimal ground throw combo for Iron Man sans assists? Granted you get the throw into the corner.

Danke · May 23, 2012, 11:53am

I just do KK starting from cr.l, you can also do it from l smart bomb into st.h. There’s better stuff with missile that Duck posted a while back if I remember correctly but it all does the same damage anyway.