all ive learned from this thread is that srkers think its reasonable to make up and abide by their own laws. and that many of them dont even know what the word “law” means. its funny to see pointless posts like “maybe she lied about being pregnant” or that the male was a suspect for other charges. how is that even relevant?
sorry, being angry because you were the victim of a robbery (or even multiple robberies by the same culprits), revenge for a prior injury, or trying to “send a message” to other potential burglars are not legal grounds to execute a person, whether that person is undeniably guilty or not. if he wasnt in immediate danger when he pulled the trigger, its going to be hard to argue that it was self-defence. in his interview he basically admitted that he doesnt know or care how the legal system works. thats on him i guess.
maybe people have become so cynical that its exciting to them to see a criminal pay for their actions in the most mob-pleasing way possible. but you cant equate that to a person having done the right thing, even if your knee jerk reaction is to do just that.
Glad I hit refresh before I posted, I was about make a similar statement as you.
I’ll be surprised if at the very least he isn’t slapped with a manslaughter charge. The threat on his life doesn’t sound like it was in constant danger, he walked in, got a good licking and they went back to doing what they were doing. He got hold of his firearm, they ran (no longer a threat at this point), and he pursued.
I don’t think his intent was malicious enough to warrant Murder, but I do think he got caught up in it and made a poor judgment call.
No i dont know how the kid would have turned out. But there is a reason theres the saying like mother like sob/daughter. Theres a reason the saying the apple does not fall far from the tree. If the kid would have gone to a foster home he would not have had anyone to truly show him or her love and teach them well right from wrong. The odds of the kid turning out well were low just too many negatives going on in his or her life. Common sense. shit like this has been seen for years people are violent or do dumb shit for a reason, either they were not taught right from wrong and for them stealing is ok as long as you dont get caught. People steal for the same reason other drink it feels nice and it oppresses all the negatives. They dont give a fuck if it affects other around the. I believe that if you have the ability to reason and are a kind person who is considerate is because you had someone who cared and loved you.
I think this is self defense. Maybe not according to the strict code of law (which can be flawed) but on visceral level.
In my opinion I think the killing was justified self defense because these people were a cancer on his life and a continual hazard to his health and safety. The cops couldn’t stop his suffering after FOUR different occasions so he did what it took to protect himself once and for all. Also I think its dishonest to label this simple revenge killing. That’s like calling Christopher Dorner’s death straight revenge killing. I think there are some other elements you may be willfully ignoring here.
Some might say “Oh but she was fleeing the scene and so she is no longer an immediate threat She was begging for mercy.”
Bullshit!
First of all never trust a person that’s bold enough to break into you house and assault you once, let alone on FOUR separate occasions. That’s incredibly dangerous and can get you and others hurt or killed. Also, I imagine it takes a certain kind of person to do something like rob an old man multiple times so there’s no way for me to know how far you are willing to take things. You have already given me a good reason to question your character as a whole. Maybe the second I drop my guard you take out a weapon and kill me. Maybe you don’t even need a weapon. I am 80 years old after all.
Like I could understand if this was the first robbery attempt and he gunned her down in this same fashion but come on FOUR TIMES? This was not going to end and it was acutally getting worse. This time they assaulted him and broke his collar bone. Maybe next time its his life. They gave him good enough reason to believe the attacks wouldn’t stop. They made a habitual target out of this 80 year old man forcing him to live in fear for his life and safety. As long as they were on the streets, they were a constant threat to him PERIOD.
I wonder if you changed this story to a young woman being raped by the same couple on three different occasions and then finally after the fourth rape she chases down and guns down the rapist. I seriously doubt this situation would be scrutinized at all. Would it matter that he/she begged for mercy or had a wife/kids.
I mean sure he was pretty damn cold in that interview but I don’t think that matters. What matters is that he is now safe to live out the rest of his life in peace. What a horrible way to spend your twilight years. Getting robbed and assaulted all the damn time. Makes me sad to think about.
Both times I got robbed, I found the person who did it and stomped the bejeezus out of them. Didn’t kill em, but I fucked em up something fierce. Had to drive almost to Detroit the one time to fuck some dude up.
Fun fact: it’s really hard to hide from somebody when you have a twin brother.
But yeah, I’m having a hard time feeling bad about the old guy. I don’t care if this bitch ran or whatever. She brought an unborn child to rob a man. WTF. You can ask for mercy. It doesn’t have to be given. But fuck, at least make an attempt at mercy. But from what it sounds like, she was merely fleeing, in which case, you really dunno what the fuck is going on, so I can understand the shooting completely. Yet if she had time to beg and he finished her of,…
Home invasion is in progress
Old Man gets the upper hand by getting a gun
both suspects flee
Woman trips and falls or something before she can exit the property
"Please don’t hurt me i’m pregnant"
BANG! BANG!
I don’t give a fuck if she was pregnant or not, from what we know this was straight up cold blooded murder. All three people involved are pieces of shit.
you do know the law is made up as it goes because by definition a “law” is a broad definition that’s subject to interpretation. You also know that the “law” kills folk at random, but it’s OK because they have a shiny badge and are “trained to kill”.
Secondly, if he’s charged with anything, the only logical charge would be “crime of passion”, because
-his house was invaded
-he was assaulted
-he was injured, where he had a broken collarbone, implying they attacked him in the head and neck
-they left him for dead after they attacked him and continued ransacking his house after violently attacking him
anybody in that situation would not think clearly because biology clearly dictates we have a fight or flight mechanism hardwired into our very being. But your liberal mindset completely ignores this, as will the faggot state of California when they finally do charge him with something.
What I learned from your post is that your quick to generalize and make up shit as you go, and abide by your own liberal interpretation of an individuals rights to self defense and use of force.
Self defense in California is non existent, or it’s very easy for you to get in a lot of trouble.
Castle domain laws exist, but if it’s found you shot a man while he is laying down, or running away. You can be charged with the excessive force and whatever charge accompanies the current condition of the criminal.
“An autopsy Friday determined that Miller was not pregnant, Los Angeles County coroner’s spokesman Ed Winter said.”
it was a lie she told to keep from getting shot. it’s pretty obvious that the couple were drug addicts looking for crap to sell. look at her mugshot, you’ll find very similar looking faces in “over-time” meth slide-shows. all of this will come to light in the trial if they are stupid enough to go along with the charges. i can’t see a jury convicting him, especially not on a murder one charge
She invaded his home and during that kind of panic people’s judgement is often impaired. Using a unborn child as a defence lessens any sympathy I have towards her, although I’ll concede in saying he shouldn’t have killed her.
Weren’t you the one who accused me of being a “pussy worshipper”? Look who’s talking, “O she’s pregnant, I should let her rob me and she’s acquitted of her crimes because she’s a pregnant woman.”
