Lot of good stuff in here. Homing on his ultra seems unnecessary. A different kind of Ultra would be excellent instead. Most of the other comments I can agree with.
Claw roll seems like it could definitely be improved, anything but the weak version is just useless it seems. I could be terribly wrong here it has been a while.
Maybe his sliding kick a bit faster? He just kind of oozes along the ground instead of quickly sliding. Not sure if that’d infringe to much on Blanka’s territory then though.
I would like it personally if the changes caused by losing the claw/mask were lessened a bit.
Ultimately just tune him a bit so hes slightly better at what he can do already. Yeah he is good at poking but his combos are relatively weak/short (as far as I know?). Assuming that is the case, keep him that way, don’t homogenize the game, just give his specials a bit more impact. I really think he needs a lot less work than some think. He seems like a character that could go from crap to being overpowered VERY easily through just a few tweaks due to his relatively unique moves/abilities (wall jump, air grab, jumping dodge backwards, sliding strong crouch kick, etc)
I know something that hasn’t been mentioned yet - change the DB charge for ST back to simply B. Jumping straight up and ruining my only (half assed) AA option is pretty lame imo. I don’t see why it shouldn’t be simply a ‘back’ charge anyways or why they even changed it.
What if when he loses his claw his stance changes where his close combat specials are improved but loses most of his long range specials. would b interesting
It’s always been back. There was a glitch in ST where after you charged down-back, you could hold back and not lose the down portion of the charge, but I don’t think it was intended.
Can we make it so that whiffed walldives can’t be punished by Ryu’s Ultra?
Also, the ST thing about Vega is true. He is rumored to be one of the simplest and non technicals characters ever (not say that it doesn’t take any skill to win… maybe that was put a bit wrong)
Jumping straight up would also break a backwards charge.
You have that round the wrong way. It’s always been :db:, but the glitch in ST allowed you to switch to a :l: position to hold the charge once the charge had been built, and then execute whilst walking backwards or blocking standing.
This was removed in HD and subsequent games so that if you move to just :l: and not :db:, you lose the ability to perform the move and have to build the charge again.
Jup. This was also the reason why it was so insanely hard to get in on Vega. Not only did he walk fast and control the space in front of him, he even had ST charge storing.
I am 100% with Buddha.
I find Vega VERY capable right now already, and I think any changes he gets will be for the better, and will PROBABLY bump him up in tier.
One of the more obvious things I think they WILL do is add invincibility frames on certain moves, and I think that ALONE is enough to bump him to lower-mid.
Anything further will make him amazing and, imo, a much deeper Vega than his previous incarnations. I’ve never had fun using Vega until SFIV. Improved SFIV Vega is the way to go for me, not a shift towards ST Vega. That’s my say in the matter.
The Tier List isn’t that important. What’s more important is that the difference between top and bottom tier gets closer than what it is now. I think it’s something like 40 - 45 points if you include Console chars, with Vega being next to Dan.
If they could drop the difference by 15-20 points I’d be happy even if it means Vega stays bottom tier, because it would imply more balanced matchups.
Vega’s Claws should probably get longer. I would like his claws to reach about half screen when on, and act as spikes on the ground when they are knocked off. Preferably, they would act like spikes in Megaman games, and opponents would have to jump over them or die. They should also stab opponents who walk to close while in neutral position.
seriously, people that dont have any idea how st is played needs to stfu.
you won’t win just off wall dive BS alone against anyone that is half decent. dunno why is everyone complaining about vega being so basic and simple, when st in general is a basic game.
vega was never softbanned in japan, you’re thinking old sagat.
