SFV Lounge: SRK Cross Tag Battle

Shit are you the falke?

Can is nexoninja if not

Edit. Jeah. Guess I’m behind the times.

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Yup falke is my secondary

Little bit of lag but not terrible we can do one more

Shit man… that was perfect. I’ve been away from the game since shortly after blanks and know dick about falke. Perfect MU XP getting stomped by her.

How fast is that standing short? Also… your reactions are rediculous, especially if that was laggy on your side. Also also… I know you fuck around with the queen. By all means blow me up with a critique

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I’m sure not a lot of people are using her yet. I think the highest ranked person going solo with her in ranked is Ginonyankooo (around rank 400). He used Ibuki in Season 1/2 so I used to watch a lot of his replays also.

Oh the standing short is 5 frame start up, but it’s plus 3 on block so you have to hold it once she starts firing it off. It goes into shotgun pretty easily which is only minus 3 and can use from a range where they can’t really do much. Hah, yeah I still got my 3rd Strike reactions. Still one hit confirming Ibuki’s s.MK into target combo when I can in this game even though you can just s.LK into DP. Makes it feel more like 3S Ibuki and it pushes them to near the corner with a free ass standing shimmy for no meter.

Reactions help with Falke too cuz she has that huge PP anti air that you can just sit on and crouch to low profile yourself even further before AAing.

You did alright with Juri. The going back and doing stores and V skill charging was smart on your part. Falke has to slow down her fireball game once you charge the V Skill, I just usually try to snipe with a couple low shots before the Juri gets started as they do big stun if you land 2 or 3. Was also good how you were able to use the super to anti air a couple times. I remember playing a match vs another Juri where I lost because he mistimed it on my air fireball so it whiffed, but didn’t realize it was going to whiff so choked up the punish.

Most of what you need to work on is more player based than about Juri. Didn’t really tech any throws and could have blocked a bit more on wake up. Though to be fair not teching throws is really the smart thing to do considering none of the regular throws give oki anymore any way (minus certain back throws and I guess Juri’s forward throw to meaty technically counts). I would say also use s.MK a lot more. I guess it’s hard with Falke to see how good your AA is since she has a lot of ways to manipulate anti airs with 2 specials that can be done on any jump direction and huge air buttons. I always try to bait people into pressing a button to AA and then shooting their AA button with air shot.

Oh and that reminds me that I’ll need to check the replay of the first match we had. Somehow I was able to juggle you with her air V Trigger shot for like 6 hits on one shot. Never seen that before. Seemed to add extra damage and made the PP follow up really easy to confirm. I’ll have to figure that out.

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Cool man… thanks for all the info.

One more dumb question… can I store vs the low shot? If so the timing is fucked(don’t know if you got that I was trying to get you to shoot more to try it early on)

Is the air shot your talking about the one that bounced off the floor? If not that shit was crazy too, but I’m not up to par on falke yet.

Not sure. I would assume so but the store is 10 frame start and you’re trying to store on probably the fastest moving fireball in the game. It moves faster than most ex fireballs and the v trigger one is even faster. You’re better off just charging v skill. Even if you get hit as long as you charged it early enough you’ll have the v skill ready to snipe the next one.

Yeah the v trigger air shot is the one that can bounce off the floor. She can still use her regular shots but gets access to 3 powered up shots as well. Theyre all pretty plus on block.

Jin beating up SRKers long staff style.

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What’s the Falke vs Menat MU lookin’ like :^)

Add Birdie

okay ill be the one to say it but…W H E N S C O D Y ?

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@TWINBLADES I had to work late night so we’ll try to get it in tomorrow.

Hard for me to give the Menat Falke matchup a number since there just aren’t many to fight, but I don’t think it’s as bad as some people might thing it is. Like yeah she can’t low shot much vs Menat because reflect, but her low shot is more a luxury tool vs slower characters and to punish certain moves than it is something she needs to win. She has strong anti airs vs dives so she Menat can’t really dive too much without taking an AA. Her buttons can beat yours, but you can catch her whiffing one of her heavier normals and punish as well. Falke can do a decent job baiting her anti airs with air fireball and dive, just have be careful of EX soul throw which beats projectiles.

Once you get V Trigger you can control more of the match as Falke’s VT1 shots can’t be reflected (only exception is Aegis). Another thing that helps is that once you get in on her you can start to apply pressure pretty easily, but if she gets in on you you still have an EX reversal to keep her offense in check. A match that’s definitely a bit of a struggle from a range, but once you can find your way in or get V Trigger you can start to dictate things.

Birdie matchup isn’t too good IMO. His bullhorn can just shit on her fireballs and he has the buttons to easily whiff punish any button that you make whiff. Have to play very solidly vs him while all it takes is one dash up or unga ex free willy and you gotta start playing games. If you can somehow keep control or get into rush him down its not bad, but can go bad pretty fast. Abigail and Gief are much easier fights.

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Sakura being -2 on block with Hurricane is the biggest crock of BS ever. Birdie’s only answer to -2 is block. This angers me.

Can’t you just press st.lk and confirm it into st.mp if it tags her on CH

The training and analysis feels like it is starting to click. Didn’t get as much time to play yesterday as I’d hoped for but I did get a chance to play a couple of sets and those felt a helluva lot better. Even with the wins I still made plenty of mistakes and definitely still have stuff I need to drill into my head, but it did feel good to have things pay off in match.

Hopefully I can get some longer sessions in this weekend to continue to work on this stuff in matches. At least I managed to end on an up note so I can go into the next session with some morale. :slight_smile:

Ranked has been a bit trying. Tuesday night was PS4 wifi warriors days it seems, and yesterday I was doing well and almost got back to ultra silver with the schoolgirl… till the game gave me Birdie, yolo Ken, Birdie, laggy Guile in a row and back to silver I went.

Ended the day back at super silver and I hope tonight things will be go better. cr mk into VT2 tatsu is working well enough and I just need to get better at confirming this.
I need to train doing it into lp tatsu so that when I land it while in VT2, muscle memory will trigger and the VT2 party will get started.
I feel that if I get back to ultra silver tonight, I may be able to reach gold on Gief Friday.

Now, if only I could somehow stop getting DP or hadouken when I try to follow a stun with j. HK, cr HP, DP right after j. HK landing, that would be great.
I hope the new, larger and with better parts stick will help me improve on those executions errors and stops double tap from not registering all the time.

Sakura is the Nu Ken
Every Sak I fight either has amazing footsies or rollback
and at this point I think my brain has blended in the tew factors

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Akuma is a little too easy for people to play honestly and on top of that he has amazing normals and great anti airs you cant even jump in on him anyway since even if you read a fireball he’ll just V-Trigger then DP/B.HP/Super and screw you over anyway. how do you deal with him?

also yeah sakura is bs too lol but not on that akuma or menat level

Every Sakura I’ve fought did EX dp after a blocked Tatsu, it’s their trademark move. Dunno if Sakura players prefer having a better character overall over this resource, but whatever

The only way to deal with him is fighting fire with fire. Without BS you can still win the battle, but at the end Akuma will win the war. Ryu and Ken are shit now, so…here we are.

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I don’t think so, but I’ll test that tonight after work.