SFV Lounge: Makoto is coming for sure. F2P definitely. RIP Pertho's doggy

Switching gears a bit, I’m reading this reddit post about a guy who spent $500 bucks on lootboxes in Apex Legends (new battle royale game) trying to get one item. I feel bad for the guy because he got the item he was looking for in the very last lootbox (number 500).

But Christ I cannot fathom ever spending real money on lootboxes and I struggle to understand how anyone older than a high school freshman would either. What kind of moron spends money on the chance to get the product wanted? It’s like gambling but no matter the outcome you lose money.

I can get on board with throwing a few bucks at a game you enjoy. Especially if it’s free…

But yeah, the loot box system is built to tap into the animal parts of our brains.

Psychological thing. Some people really love the thrill of gambling, and lootboxes give it to them. So they keep going, and sometimes they just can’t help it.

Which is why (paid) lootboxes are banned in Belgium now.

Lmfao nothing could be further from the truth. I played one of the best goukens on the west coast, but he never entered tournies… however he was once the national champ at tekken tag so… the dude had fg in his blood.

Anywho, goukens counter… Kongo, beat all versions of ibukis kunai, and also couldn’t be safe jumped. So she basically had no oki against him at all. Cute shit like jumping and doing no kunai didn’t work because he could react to kunai and counter it. Closest I ever got to being able to bait the counter was throwing kunai a frame early so that it barely whiffs, and allowed me to wiff punish Kongo, but naw, that was just a gimmick. Ibuki didn’t die to goukens fireballs, but it was nowhere near free either. Gouken hid most of his fireball recovery in his startup, so the gust is that if you reacted to his fireballs, it was long past the time where you could actually hit him. And if you predicted them with like an ex slide… if you predicted wrong, you were basically losing half life to goukens crazy damage and he had a perfect setup for vortexing ibuki.

Goukens “vortex” against ibuki was VERY hard to deal with. You try to ex dp and gouken just sails over your head and bam, you gonna lose half life. You try to block and gouken gets in for free with backthrow games into ultra, or you get crossed up and pwnt, or he demonflip throws you. Not a good situation and he had it on basically every KD.

So, much of the match was just ibuki sliding around doing no damage here and there, getting slide baited into focus and then destroyed etc etc.

One might say maybe it was just me, but motempest and I and the gouken player were all pretty good friends, and he fucked up tempests ibuki as well, and then we had some random ibuki player from the east coast come to dons arcade once… got his ibuki blown up. Dude got worked so bad he got pissed and down on himself and was like “but this is a bad matchup for gouken” and my friend was like…you think this is bad for gouken… I play Dime all the time and I think it’s terrible for her. The ibuki player didn’t really respond. Pressed start and got like perfected twice in a row or some shit. Then he got up and left and played at another station.

Shit was that bad.

Like, I’m better at sf4 than I ever was at sf5. Yet in sf5 if Highland and I were to play 60 games… I’d probably win around 20 ATLEAST and in shit at sf5. But against my friends gouken I was regularly getting clobbered like 55-5 or some shit.

Match was fucked.

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I understand supporting a game you like. I also understand the high you get from lootboxes(opening them YGO packs looking for that fire), but at what point do you say, “yo I gotta chill”?

As i said , Gouken was deffo unique.

Suffered vs rushdown a lot at times but you did had to respect him. His fireball game was a minefield to pass through,he did shit loads of damage even with 1 ex bar and his counter was quite good.

What really kept him lower then most was the fact that he got almost nothing from his lights.,he needed big hits.

Now I want to watch some high level Gouken vs Ibuki matches lol. Too bad I’m not seeing any tournament matches, just online. Still should be interesting to watch.

Some people just don’t have the same restraint as we do.

So they spend $10,000 on FIFA lootboxes trying to get the shiny thing they really want.

500 clearly.

Experimental results.

Hail science!

I think shine was the best gouken (or some random east coast gouken) that anyone knows about. But his gouken played nothing like my friends and he couldn’t Kongo kunais on reaction either from what I remember, plus he had no vortex at all iirc. Goukens vortex wasn’t akuma level, but it could be mentioned in the same breath.

At first I didn’t get the hype behind that Apex Legends game, but now that I realize it’s one of those “battle royale” games now I understand.

Bullcat and Proudstrawberry had very good Gouken, also Kyo Anton.

Very good players.

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While I still don’t like BR games much (too much nothing, too much dumb luck), I play it with friends, and it is easily the best BR game out there. So In that sense it earned its success.

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Shine’s Gouken was always tough for me to fight with Ibuki. You had to do a lot of “do the opposite of what you are thinking” to win oki vs him.

Yeah its like Fornite I guess, though I’ve never played it myself to tell you. I got into it because a friend said I should try it and I heard in took place in the Titanfall universe.

It’s pretty fun all things considered, especially seeing as how its free and ill probably never drop a penny on it. I like how if you kill someone 9/10 times they stay dead lol.

PUBG is a cool concept and a bad game. Fortnight is better… but I still hate it. It’s also an accident and it shows.

Apex is the first BR I don’t hate… I’d just rather play something else.

Respawn, you can put that on the back of the box if you want.

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Only thing she really had versus gouken on oki was emptyjump throw. And she got no vortex really off of throw that was consistent, so gouken could just take the throw like it’s sf5, then wakeup.

Plus, you had big brain BS like gouken neutral jumping on wakeup and goukens stupid fucking neutral jump hp was like seriously fucked for ibuki to try and deal with. I hated that stupid move.

Bah… the salt is coming back.

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Really im playing it just to have something to do until Anthem comes out, which is shaping up to have a poor launch unfortunately.

Yup that’s what I remember. Empty jump throwing my ass off praying he wouldn’t eventually go for counter anytime soon and just doing gimmick stuff hoping to bait one. He generally outranged the shit out of her and had good focus so neutral was a crap shoot also. She could have used SFV EX kunai for characters like him.

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Back in the early SF4 days there was a lot of ignorance, especially among lower level players like myself. I remember thinking so many characters weren’t good or couldn’t be that threatening like Gouken, Cammy, Rose, or Abel. It’s just that it took so much longer for more players to get decent with a lot of these characters back then compared to now.

When a friend of mine started playing Gouken in Super I thought it was a joke because Gouken fucking sucked. No reason behind it, he just sucked because we never saw him in top 8’s. But he started opening my eyes to how good Gouken can be when played more optimally. I didn’t even know for the longest time how good Gouken’s fireball was. To me he was nothing more than back throw into Ultra before my friend started giving me regular beat downs with him.

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