SFV lounge: London we have a Problem X. SFV gave us the Burger King again

Saitsu · August 10, 2018, 2:02am

Alright, set up the Lounge.

Death_By_Nines · August 10, 2018, 2:03am

What’s your CFN?

Saitsu · August 10, 2018, 2:04am

Saitsu is the CFN

Akhos · August 10, 2018, 2:07am

Lost pretty much every match with G

Good to know my fundamentals are as garbage as ever

amrraed · August 10, 2018, 2:13am

Cammy has non of the gimmicks ?! lul

Man, J.Chen is such a hypocrite when it comes to Cammy. Apparently having every jump in being a mixup is straight fundamentals.

DevilJin_01 · August 10, 2018, 2:34am

Flying President

Pertho · August 10, 2018, 3:01am

Look at those hitboxes. The way normals were meant to be.

Trife88 · August 10, 2018, 3:06am

VT1 still booty tho :^)

Saitsu · August 10, 2018, 3:44am

@Death_By_Nines ggs. You had me downloaded pretty well. I only won that last set due to gimmicks honestly. Still, it feels good to have to navigate the obstacle course again.

Death_By_Nines · August 10, 2018, 3:48am

GGs man. Yeah, I had no idea what was going on in the very first set. Haven’t ever played against a competent Ed using VT2 and I had no idea what was happening. Was a fun set for real… When Ed gets close he’s a real handful.

Saitsu · August 10, 2018, 3:51am

Honestly VT2 isn’t particularly good. It’s only good against those not used to it. It’s insanely easy to V-Reversal and is basically forced to be used in tight blockstrings. You also don’t get as much reward on hit as a lot of the rest of the cast.

Second set I honestly got caught completely by surprise when you started to get aggressive, it took me a few games to adjust. You were getting the patterns down well, keeping me off balance. Your AAs were solid. When I was down 3-1 in the last couple sets I thought I was dead in the water.

DevilJin_01 · August 10, 2018, 3:52am

Some notes from the Highlander about the King

Notes include how angry charge TUs push the opponent out farther on hit and how VT1/Tiger Cannon can be shot during a tiger shot to flood the screen further. Allowing you patterns where you can shoot a low shot and then AA a jump in with tiger cannon.

Death_By_Nines · August 10, 2018, 3:59am

I buckled honestly. My concentration for long sets is definitely nowhere near what it used to be. Towards the end I allowed a few to many jump-ins. Honestly the round you won with the EX fireball was a bit of a mental guard break lol.

Saitsu · August 10, 2018, 4:02am

I mean it’s ironic, I only started doing that to emulate you using EX Tiger Shot to punish me. At worst I’d get the trade and keep things neutral, at best I get the initiative.

Frost · August 10, 2018, 4:14am

I really enjoy this fireball zone mindgame, it’s great. I been missing out all these years.

Yunity · August 10, 2018, 5:34am

Is there a writeup or video on how to use fireballs? Specifically to Sagat? I definitely lack the understanding of throwing a fireball.

Highlandfireball · August 10, 2018, 5:55am

It’s habit, I still do it aswell. He does get some mega damage though if you high step kick someone as an AA.

Frost · August 10, 2018, 5:59am

f.hk as an AA is terrible is the only issue. St.hk is like 10x better at doing what f.hk does.

Highlandfireball · August 10, 2018, 6:08am

Look on my channel for an old zoning video with SF4 sagat for now, but I will be making a new one.

Frosty yeah, it’s more for a set up than a reaction Low lk tiger shot full screen…I’ll just jum…boom, goodnight. Same set up as Kara uppercut.

Also in that G vid, yeah he gets smashed, but he’s still got jump. I played a G player today in a few sets and believe me G can do the same thing to sagat but quicker and 5 times more damaging. Pretty sure he’s got like 400 damage combos …into another command grab.

If your cornered by G you’re probably dead, I don’t even want to think about not having a reversal there.

Frost · August 10, 2018, 6:39am

On my phone and I’m trying to learn myself but I’ll jot down some simple points for you to think about as you approach the concept.

It takes like 6 clean fireball hits to equal the amount of damage taken by a single jumpin. Be very mindful of when and where you throw, it’s not just a contest of how many can I throw in succession.
Fireball strength matters. A lot. For instance, at certain distances heavy fireball > heavy fireball as Sagat when the opponent is within jumping distance will get you punished if they jump inbetween fireballs. However light fireball > light fireball with it’s slower travel time will put the opponent in blockstun at a later point in time, and because of that their jump will come out much later. So from some distances you can recover from that second fireball and DP. The range has to be calculated properly to get that perfect frame advantage for it though.
Learn the art of doing absolutely nothing. If you go and watch some replays of Bonchan right now you’ll see a lot of his time is spent buffering St.lk, because fireball is such a heavy risk you can’t get into a rhythm or pattern with them for prolonged periods of time.
LP.High Shot is his best recovering meterless fireball, so if you’re scared about a jump but still want to put something on the screen use that, if they jump on it you can recover in time to DP.
when the opponent is cornered is when fireball can become both incredibly strong and incredibly risky. Because their back is now to a wall you can’t play a close range fireball game without opening yourself up to a fat jump inbetween each fireball. When you close the distance to a cornered opponent, even though you have a screen advantage don’t get cocky with close ranged fireballs, you’re risking a lot of damage with each jump.