SFV Lounge: Ken is high mid. Kage is barely mid. F2P still coming

Yeah, exactly. Stability matters in short sets. Your strategy can have the highest expectation value in the game overall, but if the variance is too high it will backfire occasionally. In a ft10 you might win 10-3, but if those losses were at the start, you’d lose the ft2. And now you got eliminated from the tournament.

It’s a general rule for all games I’ve ever played tbh. If you’re the better player, you want low variance just because fewer things can go wrong and you’re less likely to get blown up in the short term.

So is Zangief’s counter still useless to all crap? I still never see anyone use it

Oh but it is. They’ve been slowly preparing for it for years now. It will coincide with the netcode patch.

Kichipa and Itazan use it once in a blue moon so it’s not useless, just not very useful either.

Capcom’s not selling you a bridge either

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And you’ll never get that cape for Bison either!

Capcom doesn’t love you!

Wow. That’s just… so awful.

I…

need to lay down…

Good…

bye…

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I used it against a super gold Cammy last week!
… Once… because that thing SUCKS. Not only it is stupidly situational, it also resets to neutral. You don’t get oki after it.
If Capcom removed it from Gief, it would be a massive buff to him!

Look out for some familiar names! Put in the close games to make it a bit more interesting!

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Elena trials in USF4 are crazy.

This game is just so full of insane links. Holy shit is this some tedious nonsense.

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Agreed. If SFV went F2P, then Capcom would have trouble selling SF6 as a full price game. And if Capcom has any plans at all to ever release an SF6, then they plan to release it as a full price game.

What’s f2p? Also what are the advantages and disadvantages of sfv getting that?

Free To Play. Basically the same model as League of Legends and Candy Crush. The advantage is that people can try the game for free because its…free. You don’t get all of the content, you get access to a few. Usually Free To Play games will rotate the free cast and you can buy characters to permanently unlock them.

The idea is that you let people enjoy the game and they’ll spend money as they see fit. The vast majority won’t have the whole cast unlocked, only a few characters. Instead the devs make money on vanity items. Believe you me that people spend an assload of money on costumes for their LoL characters. Makes chun look destitute with how many less outfits she has compared to a F2P game.

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Idk how a fighting game could work with a f2p model, in games like LoL you can play with your friends or blame your teammates, you can also win games due to the other team having at least one player worse or as bad as you.
What are people going to do with f2p FGs? Try some combos in training mode for 5 minutes and hop online only to get destroyed for 50 matches?

Killer Instinct had the best idea for it I think

You can try a character for free that rotates every so often, buying your way through the package and getting exactly what you want, or you can just go the traditional route and buy the full game with everything already in it.

DJ could probably tell you more of the details on how it works if I missed anything, that’s what I remember from the early days at least

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If there was a tag battle or team battle like in tekken or sfxt I think a f2p model could work for a fighting game.

Edit: Also high quality costumes.

While you could buy the entire game, Dead or Alive 5 Last Round and Killer Instinct both offered f2p options as well.

DOA5LR gave you a few playable characters and locked the story mode. You could buy any individual character you wanted, and the whole system was supplemented by outfit sales. Of course if you wanted more than a handful of characters, then it was cheaper to buy the game outright.

Killer Instinct’s free version let you play a single character, which changed each month. Killer Instinct was supplemented by loot box-like booster packs that you could buy to use in its final season “world tour” type mode. (You could earn the booster packs in-game, but it was faster to just buy them directly with real money.)

It worked for DOA cause of tits, ass and costumes.

Nobody cares bout KI.

Doesn’t mean the model wasn’t good~