SFV Lounge: Ken is high mid. Kage is barely mid. F2P still coming

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This is actually true. In every way, they are best.

On the opposite end though, both his VTs require EX meter to reach their full potential, more so than others.

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You know I watch a lot of bison. Som was anti airing me with cr.jab like 90% of the time. Shit was crazy because now I’m in a mix up . I never saw other high level bisons do that.

Turned Bisons weakness into a strength.

I think though with Sagat I’ve got no J.mk that hits both sides, but man , brain was cooked.

Charge characters tend to have much stronger EX moves at their disposal, their regular specials usually have some higher power to them too.

Basically every EX move Bison has is a fuck neutral I’m in move. He needs them all obviously.

Bison cr.lp AA been around for ages, it’s still fucking stupid. Looking at his hitbox for cr.lp, it’s got nothing to do with the normal itself, it’s just jump hurtboxes being fucking god awful allowing that to happen. Sagat’s are especially bad because being big and slow means for some reason you have to have shit jumping options unless your name is Abigail.

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Another small tidbit on cr.lp AAs, it got nerfed in S4 IIRC, but Cody’s S3 cr.lp hitbox was the “best” cr.lp AA in the game, had the best hitbox/hurtbox ratio.

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Oh hey someone finally bookmarked my hitboxes

They’re all in the discord, have been since you uploaded em

Should probably be useful for once and get the S4 updated ones

do Cody first pretty please I wanna see the adjustments on stmp and stlk

You kept trash talking so I’m doing Cody last

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the nerve of these plat kiddos these days

I told you how much I hate that shit

And I can’t help it if I have no talent at FGs :frowning:

Well, you could do that on SFVSim diff tool too. :stuck_out_tongue:
st mp:
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https://sfvsim.com/diff/CDY/030/scripts/601_5MP.html#7

st lk:
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https://sfvsim.com/diff/CDY/030/scripts/603_5LK.html#5

st mp had the hurtbox height decreased and st lk had the hitbox length decreased.

Little late but the nerfs Menat got are a little more than “slap in the wrists” unlike what some thought… it’s hard to explain but it has to do with how excellent it was to have st.HP the way it was and VT1 being two bars along with a couple other things, and it being on a specialist kind of character. Like Guile and Cammy are much easier characters and got nerfed way harder than Menat did, but Menat’s few nerfs affected her made her drop more spots than those two would if they got just as few nerfs as she did, it’s weird to explain I guess.

Good. Menat still deserved worse than she got! :angry:

That’s still got a decent hurt box on top, that doesn’t look as good as I thought it would. Still it obviously works. Sagat not having a decent cross up means I’m always jumping in from the front.

EU dictators AA with cr.LP all the time.
Or AA with j.MP (I think). No jumps allowed.

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this is why it worked. It’s got nothing to do with his cr.lp

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all of your jumping normals are like garbage tier, I could prolly AA that with my crmk lmfao

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I can has?

This is where i was telling you guys Sagat needed better jump ins and the response was along the lines of lol hes got fireballs, just get AAed by throw techs or whatever your opponent presses

Jump roundhouse was buffed by the way.

Goddamn I head out for one night and you guys get on the pizza thing again. We need some SFV news just so that you stop making me want to get pizza for dinner 2-3 times a week.

Regarding Italy: when we were there it was hot as fuck and I remember us eating a lot of tourist-y food so I can’t speak to any of that. But the single most beautiful woman I have ever seen in person, I saw in there, so there’s that.

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