Yes, how awful is it to consider resource management like everybody else. 
I like it when games are able to balance around moves being good I guess? Instead of making things fair by making everything shit.
So everyone else’s wakeup game (18 characters or so) have shit wakeup?
I’m sure about all command grabs but normal throws have a few frames extra of recovery.
Or, you know, you can learn to block instead? I mean they are already nerfing throws so that they can’t 50/50 you on wake-up, you will have even less reasons to use them.
Also the invincibility still hits on frame 3, meaning that you can probably still mash it through some frame traps or false strings.
DOOOONT doooo it
I just heard Xian said season 2 is 4 frames of inputlag?
Anyone else hear this? I heard a lot of guys saying at the PSX the game was a little slower?
Hmm seems Very big changes are possibly coming.it will be like learning a brand new game.
The monitors at PSX were laggy AF, they are not reliable.
Oh I thought so
I always thought his v-skill and v-trigger should make him recover gray damage faster than others. Hokuto no Ken style.
I basically never used 2LP, now it’s looking viable again. I use V-Skill overhead a lot, and I’m really happy to see it go over lows and throws; max range VSO is now even more of a scary threat. I think it’s bullshit that you’re in the air and you can grab me out of it lol, I hope they fix that for Juri’s ryodansatsu too.
Kinda sad about the throw nerfs though. One of my favorite parts of playing Laura is being able to go into meaty after meaty after meaty, and it’s looking like I’m gonna have to relearn everything.
Guile changes as of yesterdays Capcom Uk stream
Damn those Guile Buffs are tasty.
Guile goes from no medium medium and only one meh heavy medium, to getting medium medium and another good heavy medium? Top teer.
Ill update this later tonight with stuff from the beta crack or whatever you can call this
Could someone check to see if this is still a thing? Hope they changed this.
@“DevilJin 01” bison thread is full of changes.
This is what I got for now. Will add more later or if anyone else can add in would be great.
Alex
- Command grab frame advantage seems nerfed.
- Air ex knee grab frame advantage nerfed
- f+HP now naturally links into s.MP
- c.LP comboes into LP chop
Balrog
- Screw upper is now a command
- Lost some juggles
Birdie
- s.HP now crush counters
Cammy
- Dive kicks nerfed frame advantage
- V Reversal no longer knocks down, but is safer on block and tracks better
Chun-Li
-c.LP nerfed to 4 frames
-s.LK nerfed to 5 frames
- Lightning legs can now be mashed/pianoed and supposedly gives enough frame advantage to link s.LK afterwards (can’t do if you use command legs)
- Instant MK legs (IALL) is minus 2 now (not sure about LK)
- All Lighning legs is now VTCable
- Landing an air normal during V Skill builds V Gauge
- c.LK is now cancelable into Lightning Legs
- V Trigger timer is shorter
Dhalsim
- Frame advantage on hit for s.HP
F.A.N.G
- Supposedly V Trigger now allows him to do specials without charging
Guile
- Gets medium medium confirm (s.MP, c.MP)
- Upside down kick combos into c.MP
- V Trigger is 2 bars
- b+HP no longer crush counters
- c.HP now crush counters on specific frame (probably on just 1 frame)
- V Trigger corner loop with c.MP is gone (but still may be able to do it with c.LP)
Ibuki
-/+ s.MK is now 6 frame start up (up from 5), but is plus 5 on hit and plus 2 on block (up from 0 on hit and minus 1 on block)
- supposedly has an EX kunai reload (no info on how many it reloads or how fast it recovers)
- Parasail now allows you to attack with air normals (no word on speed/recovery)
Juri
- Fully charged V Skill travels across the screen really fast
- Get medium medium link (s.MP, s.MK)
- Tesenrin (DP) is now a punch command
-/+ V Trigger supposedly on a fixed timer like Chun. Supposedly V Trigger fireballs don’t travel as far and are slower
Karin
- New air target combo.
- j.MP air to air seems to set up new juggles now. Helps her deal with the air with more damage
- s.LK plus 1 on block (down from plus 3, the only plus 3 light in the game)
Ken
+c.LK plus 2 on block
- c.MK supposedly plus one on block
- Air EX tatsu supposedly is either minus on block or has to be spaced perfectly to be plus on block
Laura
- V Skill overhead is plus on hit
- Still has meaties off back throw and other grabs
M. Bison
Lots of stuff
Nash
- Supposedly EX scythe is now fully invinicible
- Walk speed supposedly faster
- Forward and back dashes nerfed in speed/frames
Necalli
- Charge rush special supposedly has frame one armor now
- Less damage on stuff
- s.MP, s.MK is apparently a new medium medium for him (used to have it in beta, now gets it back)
R. Mika
-f+MP now minus 6 or 7 on block
- c.HP now supposedly minus 4 on block
- regular s.HK now minus 2 on block (used to be minus 4)
Rashid
+j.MP sets up juggles now?
Urien
+c.MK is plus one on block
- Has a medium medium now supposedly
Vega
Zangief
+f+HP gives a 1/5th of an EX bar if it absorbs a projectile
Did Chuns’ V-Trigger not get nerfed in any way whatsoever?