Yun/Fei/Cammy/Ryu seem like good alts to me.
I use Rose as an alt because of footsies and ground control, and a little bit more reliable AA.
So today I set out to start using the spreadsheet idea from PR_Balrog… made me realize just how much better I need to get. To be fair though, my stick broke yesterday so I’m trying to learn the game on the crappy Xbox pad now. 25 wins to 26 losses doesn’t make me very happy 
I already see a pattern of having a hard time with Akuma, Blanka, Guile, M. Bison, and Rufus.
On the discussion of alts… I like using Viper but I haven’t invested much time into her because I’m focused on learning Chun now. It’s a fun change of pace that throws off other people because I tend to play very slow and lame with Chun and then go offensive with Viper. When Ultra drops I might look into Poison a bit too. Maybe Rose.
I use Evil Ryu, Dudley, and to a lesser extent Guile. Not to cover weaknesses, just because I like messing around with them. Even against Akuma, my best chance will be to use Chun. She’s the character I have the most hours with by far and the one I’m the strongest with.
Just curious about the collective wisdom’s opinion on Hasanshu vs Gief in footsies.
MK HSU is even on block, and the other two are -1. Those aren’t frame disadvantaged enough to be reversal SPD’d…
At certain spacing from MK HSU, Chun can follow up with LK HSU, which is safe against lariat/ex greenhand reversals…
My logic is that since Gief can’t really reversal SPD, it gives Chun an opportunity to risk some offense to push him away.
Chun also has the option to backdash, but that is weak against reversal greenhand. Jump is weak because it presses her to the corner.
Just a thought… even the best Chun’s I have watched in this matchup end up in the corner, anyway. Would this tactic strengthen or weaken Chun’s overall footsies in the match?
Same. My alts are Juri/Rose, and it’s more out of convenience/similarity to Chun-Li’s modus operandi than to cover bad matchups for me.
I’ve been meaning to use Rufus, Cammy, Abel, and maybe a shoto since forever, but they haven’t clicked for me the way Chun-Li has thus far.
I personally never use hazanshu against Gief in fear of FADC to catch me with SPD. I feel it’s very unsafe in this match up, all of Chun’s pokes are pretty good at keeping him out. I also never take to the air against him unless it’s to AA him. If it’s a good Gief, I vote bad idea.
Making a grappler think they can grab you when they can not is good. You won’t go near any corner for jumping with a -1 because you’ll neutral jump and hk as you land if anything. It could work but it’s probably even better against a meterless T-Hawk.
Just needed somewhere to rant, I know PP mean dick, but it’s my birthday and playing drunk is bad. I just lost 900 PP… That is an indicator of SUCKING. Fell for every reversal… Every frame trap… Beautiful thing is I didn’t miss a link or drop a combo at all. The fucking humility!
HBD dude, don’t sweat the lolonline too much.
If you want, post up some replays on the video thread so we can help :3
I know what I did… Too much dashing in and out. I had no patience. But man did I get reversal’d last night.
Lol tell me about it. Same goes for reckless jump ins. Ah well, getting those points back gives me a goal to shoot for. I’ll have fun with it lol.
I went 2354 to 800-ish PP one night mate. I kept getting salty and I really wanted just one win.
> SF4 t-hawk
> No patience
you guys are funny
Don’t worry about PP too much. I regularly fluctuate around 500 points… up to 1000 on bad days. But then again I’m not that good xD
I’ve picked up Juri, but not necessarily to cover up any weakness (at least not knowingly). I think I just like ladies that kick things, honestly 
It think he means cl.mp, which in that case you can definitely get regular legs off the second hit. I’m pretty sure you can do it off the first hit but I can never get the timing right.
In the spirit of making others not feel bad… The past 3 days I’ve been recording my wins/losses on a spreadsheet a la PR_Balrog. I’m really bad at the game so it’s not pretty to look at. To be fair to myself though, my stick broke the day before I decided to do this so I’ve been learning pad as I’ve been recording this.
I try to get to 25 wins a day and I don’t kick anybody I face (unless they are rude). So a couple of those numbers are because I faced the same person several times… like the Dudley one -_-
I don’t worry about it so much other than I can’t find as many good opponents in endless without decent points to back up my skill (or lack thereof some days). Going from 3000 PP down to 2100 PP looks bad on paper, but really I know it doesn’t matter. I already get kicked from every fucking lobby (good connection or not) by sooo many players I’ve had matches with previously and I’m really not that good to have to kick me like that. So I like to increase my odds of finding a good match. 
What is that by the way? I know playing against Chun can be a pain, I hate taking on Chun (or Akuma or Cammy) but how do those people plan on getting better in the matchup if they kick every Chun? Or maybe just me. Regardless, you can’t learn if you don’t try. Couple of times I’ve inquired I’ve gotten “your chun is garbage” and “it’s not fun to play against you”. Lol Ouch… It’s not like I’m mashing ex legs or just going all YOLO… Why won’t they love me?!? Or just fight me?? Haha
Different mindset I guess. One that I would assume is less beneficial in the long run. I’ve gotten those comments before too. I think its because Chun likes to slow down and fight the basic footsie game when most other people like to go ham and mash buttons. But that could just be how I play… I use her quite passively. But again I’m not really good enough to take my word for it lol. You feel bad going between 2100-3000pp while I’m like 1300-2000pp xD.