Sim- b+mp or fp to super or teleprt, but best save the metter unless you have a big lead or it will kill them.
Gen- pretty much anything, but best it s.fp to dp or dizzy super/lvl 2 rush. Lk dp is real good and safe.
Geif- c.lk to super or kkk
Charlie- c.mp to mk FK, but I rarely do them with him
Rose- c.fp to super fireball or lvl 3 grab
Sodom- only super, 720 always gets hit
Sagat- use s.mp for late cancel if they can’t duck it
Bison- anything to immeadiate teleport
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I have ALL ABOUT ZERO 2 Japanese guidebook which has alot of shit to include frame data.
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Mind if I ask where you got it from? I have a PDF version of AAZ3. Great stuff. and GGs last night man, thanks again for the schooling.[/quote]
I got it on ebay, but keiko’s site has a link to it also.
I just DLd ggpo, and started playing A2 again for the first time in too many years. I rarely played Guy back in the day, so I’ll be game. Looking forward to playing people soon.
ggpo = Gamma Charge
looking forward to playing you, sir :tup: we could always use more a2 players.
merry christmas to everyone!
or is it kwanzaa? isn’t 90% of srk black?
yep, everyone on srk is black until proven otherwise
except for you of course
me and brian are the 10%, son.
yo do you celebrate xmas or kwanzaa?
edit: just realized i’m in the black unless proven otherwise group, time to unsubscribe
i celebrate xmas and i don’t really know what kwanzaa is about
but anyway merry christmas
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Nice…
Now i can
Opponents after studying this thread for the next couple weeks.
Lol.
Big thanks to you RSX and all the other folks contributing here. Ive just picked up Alpha 2 and this is a great resource!
Anyways, I just got GGPO since all you guys seem to be on there. Ive been using 2DF until now, but theres only a few people playing A2. So if anyone wants to show me the ropes for Rolento, Im about the only german guy in there. Hope to have some fun matches!
BTW, whats with all the Brazilians?
lol just saw this… Anyway I would try playing on 2df theres lots of people that play a1 there. Problem depending on where you arecough USA cough most of them are in brazil or somewhere else so there will always be lag. Anyway yea you can find people but problem is its hard to find people that will play. Usually people want to play, and then quit and say the game is cheap and they didnt want to play anyway. Thats what I find at least. Shrug Its fun game though! Competitively balanced id say. Because of health reasons I cant just guarantee a time ill be on, but I tend to sign on and off pretty “regularly”. Though your name is familiar(the one this is the response to)so I think weve already played. But umm… yea
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Where the fuck you people be at I never see anyone in A2 on ggpo lol
and when do you usually get on
Alot of people seem to strive to get good at street fighter I noticed on ggpo, some people played SF longer than me (competitively, I been playing since WW, but was like 6 lol). Some people try and don’t know what they or doing wrong or just don’t “get it”. I wasn’t the greatest at any SF game really until a SRK member (eddiew, you might know him form the 3S forums) whooped my ass and gave me a reality check. Everyone “knows” that they are the shit at SF until they play someone who plays in tournaments for the most part.
Well around the time of CvS2 first getting to the states is when I met him, wrecking everyone with Rog and Eagle in A-groove, both ratio 2’s. I was like “Damn, I been playing SF forever, I don’t get it how is he so good?”. I later find out he played in several tournaments and was constantly playing (and winning) , at the time, Hsien Chang, Mopreme, Fubarduck, and alot of the austin crew during casuals at the now defunct Einstien’s Arcade. Not saying he owned them, but on their lvl.
So the beatdowns begin and I start learning shit. Anti-airs, combos, what character style I like etc. I think the problem is most people stop at that point and the mentality when playing doesnt change. It was like that for a while with me, yeah, I could just defend/parry full supers, combo you to hell. I still lost. Alot.
It wasn’t long after I met other people and was introduced to 3S and ST. I think ST is the perfect game to get your basic set of skills for any SF game. Just my opinion. So I got beat down in that. With the same mentality, I saw him throw fireballs and dp. Yet I tried and get kicked in the face etc. I don’t think alot of beginners realize at first that thought goes into everything, or at least should. I realized he isn’t just throwing a hadouken, he is reacting to what the player does and watching before he throws one. So I start to see more things and pick up what other players do. First time we played Sirlin and Choi, Sirlin just destroyed most of us. How? Just walk up mk and RH with Bison mainly. Didn’t do anything else. Then I watched him play better players and saw he did the same shit UNTIL they countered him, then he switched it up. Then I realized, damn he wasn’t gonna stop until we countered it lol. And why not? Cause if you are doing something the opponent cant figure how to counter why stop. So I put that mentality in my head.
Most other games I would watch other top players (other than Jwong, such a turtle lol) and saw the match was usually calm until someone got a knockdown and I figured that was a huge advantage. I would blindly rush and just die alot, I then added the knock down to my repetoire. Now how to get the knockdown. I watched Jumpsuit Jesse in ST as well as Choi in ST and CvS2. They would bait normals. They did this by a series of attacks as simple as 3.clks, anything to JUST put them out of the characters range. I it worked good vs most non-top players and even top ones. Choi would c.lk x3 with Ryu, pause, if they swept or c.mk he immeadiately countered with a sweep for the knockdown and bam he was really in control now. Same thing I noticed JSJ would do in ST also.
So I would watch other matches, I really noticed it in one match, I think it was Texas Showdown. Jwong vs Combofiend in CvS2. Combo is known for rushing and Jwong turtles of course. I noticed that when Combo was ahead on life he turtled. I never thought of that, so I learned something else, he who has more life has the right to turtle. Added that shit to my game also. It was also in CvS2 I learned to counter hit well from watching top player use frame advantage well. I use that shit in A2 alot and its such a older game, still works.
Whenever you watch a match really WATCH and try to think what the player is doing, not everything is just set ups. Watch how they bait, counter, etc. SF is pretty much like chess. Gotta make the right move to out do/out think your opponent. I see alot of players try, try, try the same shit and it doesnt work. You need to learn the adapt also. If you are Gief and you get DP’D every SPD attempt, next time wait then SPD their recovery.
Experience. This one is big and also why ggpo is so great. Not everyone plays the same characters the same. DGV doesnt play Ryu like Choi and AfroLegends doesn’t play Rog like Graham. You wont get the proper knowledge of how to fully play vs a character until you play multiple people. And with that goes this, play people better than you. I’m not gonna get any better at A2/ST/SF4 by playing people I beat down. They won’t get better either. Play better people, but ask questions and watch what they are doing.
Last thing, training mode. Don’t just use it to combo. Use it to practice set-ups, meaties etc. Best use of training mode in my opinion is to learn how to counter something. replicate what just whooped your ass and find the counter. I see too many Chun-Li’s and Bison’s in ST get splash on in the corner in ST “They can’t do nothing!”. Well if you went into training you would know you can s.mk with Chun and psycho crusher with Bison, vs things like t.hawks loop you can take both hits then uppercut with charge characters (if he isn’t neg edging it).
I don’t know I hope this helped someone somewhere.
Lately I been in the ST room alot, I’m in there or A2 alot. Mainly after 5 PM MT
http://www.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=162792&p=5465880&viewfull=1#post5465880
get as many people to nominate this 1st post
down at bottom right click nominate
This way maybe we can get more A2 players
Been using a lot of the great info in this thread lately now that I play on 2df/supercade. Suggestion: put posts 260 and 261 on the first page, since that info is good to have handy.
Sundays Im gonna hold A2 training sessions along with ST times might change from time to time I’ll keep you all posted. Brian if you are available to help that would be cool. CleverAdvisor sucks. :china:
Well I can help, but since my isp is really inconsistent I dunno how much help I can do in games. Anyway, let me know.
