I got into 3s cuz i was at an arcade and i played SFIII:NG so i go up to it insert my coins the screen was kinda blurry so i still played it anyway cuz it was the new SF but anyways i go to the character select screen and i see a guy with blonde hair and he looks really buff im like OH SHIT they made Ken Buff!!! i didnt notice the real ken cuz i picked alex instead thinking he was a buff ken…:wtf:…so as i continued to play i realized how much that game suck so i vowed never to touch that game again.
Then years later down the road i got introduced to the New SFIII installment 3rd strike.
At first i would play it but would hate on it cuz i played MVC2 and thought that it was a better game little did i know that Further down the road i would prefer 3s over any other fighting game out there.
Well thats my little stupid story of how i got into 3s.
I started 3s with Daigo. All my friends started because of Daigo. I’ve hated the game since my first impression (when I was a complete newb and scrub), but continue to play it cause everyone else does.
It’s true though, lots of the 3s lovers (i’d go so far even to say most) don’t know what OG SF is. For many 3s is pretty much their only game. They started late and simply enjoy 3s (sorta like how the DOA community only plays DOA and the smash community only plays smash). I’ve found that a lot of the ST players will play A2 and A3, and a lot of A3 players will play CVS2 and vice versa, CVS2 players will play A3. Similarly, I’ll see MVC2 players move to 3s or CVS2, but rarely do I see 3s players move back.
Funny enough, the most common progression of games for 3s players I’ve seen is 3s is the first game ST is the second. It’s always fun watching people do that. You’ll get ryu and ken players jumping all day, trying to do high/low/throw mixups on wakeup. Then realizing that it’s futile cause they can’t get past claw’s low strong, or Blanka jump shenanigans.
This thread has been pretty cool, besides the marvel vs. 3s discussions. I don’t have much to add to it though, since I wasn’t really into it around that time.
I find it hillarious that people actually started on 3s first, as opposed to SF II and its many incarnations. Then they play REAL street fighter and get murdered. Then they stick to 3s and suck at all other fighting games.
I started out on the SFII series and generally moved on to the other games sort of in the order that they came out. I do enjoy Third Strike, but I wish they would have kept the visuals of NG/2I intact and just tweezed the gameplay instead of overhauling everything.
The III series in general had a pretty shaky adoption amongst the player base (from what I experienced at least). What I think a lot of this thread needs to hear about is the time when 3S was re-adopted into the B/Evolution tournament series (this is way pre-Daigo vs. Wong footage…hell…before god damned XBL). There was a time when this game was straight up dropped from the B/Evolution line up and the different sections of the 3S community actually worked to bring the game back onto the radar. Back when I was more involved in staff discussions, I remember the opinions of 3S going from no one is playing this anymore, we can use that game’s slot for something else to holy crap. The 3S community proved itself this year. There is no excuse to not feature it…
The older members of that community deserve props, because instead of just constantly bitching about their favorite game not being in the yearly line up they proved 3S was a great tournament game by going out, playing and growing the community. The same can’t be said about a certain game that got dropped and has yet to return, despite one man’s marathon forum posting session. The game starts with an A, ends with a 3.
Anyways. This tale isn’t mine to tell, so I won’t try. I’m just hoping someone who was in the 3S community back then can tell it for me.:wonder:
When it first cae out in the USA ('99) . Ppl played it at SVGL. I play hella matchs of Hugo versus J Choi’s Dudley & Nelson’s Necro (yeah dude, that how long ago it was). But overall, ppl where just into playing other games.
But so many other games where out then. PPL where still into MVC & SFA3. Mainy PPL where just not into it. Just that simple.
After a while everybody become burnt out of SFA3. They looked to the newer Street Fighters Games slowly ppl started to play.
Than soon after,=that time Jnp came over and showed us what the game really can offer (Tokido v. Wong), and ppl where like :wow:. We had no idea that game is like that… it was like a whole new game…and it was just enough to point everybody looking to play something new in that direction.
Hmm, I was at B4 back in 2000, things were pretty interesting back then. MvC2 was brand new, A3 was still getting heavy play, and people were just beginning to hear about CvS1 and its 4 button layout .
Third strike appeared to be going the same direction as NG and 2i, there just wasn’t a whole lot of interest. I remember thinking at the time that the game didn’t have any depth, and it seemed like a very simple engine. Parrying seemed like a gimmick, and nobody was digging the character designs. This was probably brought on by the lack of knowledge at the time. I was surprised to see that sf3 was actually popular in some pockets throughout the country after reading this thread.
Of course over time things changed. MvC2 changed from a very experimental wide-open game with its huge cast to a fine tuned tier monster. CvS1 was quickly swept under the rug after the release of CvS2 and the return of the 6 button format. A3 was forgotten, and 3rd Strike surged back with the advent of new competitive promise and depth. ST has been steady for a very long time, HD Remix may bring about a similar surge in popularity that 3rd strike enjoyed a few years back.
We shouldn’t really be surprised when the trends change. I understand that evo and available comp drives a lot of people to play certain titles, but that shouldn’t stop you from playing the games that you enjoy the most. You never know when your favorite game will make a comeback (take A2 on GGPO for example).
I played a bit of New Generation then found myself back on MVC. Then Double Impact came out for DC and I played a lot of 2nd impact, but it still didn’t feel right. Once 3s hit I enjoyed it a lot but was more into GG and CVS at the time. I didn’t start seriously playing 3s until it was released on the Dreamcast.
you mean casual gamers who are no good at every competitive game they play?
they dont enter tournies so i hardly see the point of this.
uhhhhh those people get murdered in every game they play so i dont see your point at all here.
besides the fact that you called other street fighters real street fighters.
Granted I think 3S is garbage, but I’ll try to elucidate a few points as to why it didn’t catch on at first.
My beef is that the supposed sequel to one of the most beloved games of all time bears almost no resemblance to its predecessor. Almost every instinct you had from SF2 goes straight out the window when playing SF3. Imo that’s why it got such a cold reception when it was first released.
Wanna dragon punch jump ins? Forget it, not fucking worth it. You’ll get stuffed at least 50% of the time. Psychic dragon punch? Even worse.
How many games force you to use obtuse, easily stuffed, otherwise shitty normals as anti-airs simply because they’ll throw off your opponent’s parry timing?
In how many other games can you see 2 people jump at each and not have either of them stick out an attack for fear of a parry?
What other 2-D game is even remotely as circular(rps) as 3S?
Where I lived, everyone complained about how sluggish it felt and how they’d stripped everything down so that the game would revolve around parries. I realize the game was designed quite deliberately to accomodate for the new gameplay and I respect Capcom for trying something new. But come on, did they really have to call it Street Fighter 3? It could easily have been called “Hello Kitty Superbrawl: Battle for the Magic Hair Ribbon” for all the similarities it has with SF2.
Anyone who knows his shit will tell you it just doesn’t have the same visceral quality as the old games. If you pick the right counter to your opponent’s choice of moves, you get your quick reward and the momentum is just reset again. It has no flow; you never feel in fucking control of what the opponent is doing because he almost always has a perfect out no matter how badly he fucked up. Any semblance of flow and control is all illusory. All you can hope for is a handful of correct guesses. That shit simply does not appeal to me at all. The older games were intense because if you were, for example, caught in a fireball trap, you really had to pick your moment to get out and the guy on offense knew it. He had the advantage and you had to fight hard to take it from him whereas in this garbage all it takes is one correct tap of the joystick to turn the tables.(Yes I’m being glib, but I’m also essentially right, so you can all eat a dick :arazz:.)
You never have that sense of control in 3S outside of certain abilities (i.e. Genei Jin) that break the mould and acquire properties that barely anything else in the game has(when you think about it, the top tier in 3S is largely considered such because they can use tools that are pretty standard in other SF games. How ironic is that?).
So yeah, I resent all you dumb fucks for making this the go-to game. At least the old-schoolers have played enough games to be able to shit on this one because they have an informed opinion. All you myopic asshats that have played strictly 3S need to branch out and realize what made the originals so much better. I know a few people who used to have their heads stuck up their asses and have now seen the light.
I could say more, but I need to take a dump.
In conlusion, here’s to hoping HD ST relegates this rainbow colored pile of shit back to the obscurity it came from. “It’s pretty” will no longer be a valid reason to play this turd. :nunchuck:
I find it pretty annoying that you would have such contempt for someone involved in the competitive fighting game scene who is only decent in one game. Not everyone is a pure old schooler who’s been in the scene for 10 years, and the new players are whats keeping the competitive fg scene alive. The new players are going to play 3s because there is comp for 3s, and there is no comp for SF2. It’s just arrogant to think badly on new SF players for only being able to learn what is presented to them.
The funniest thing I can think of is when a 3s player calls stuff in SFII games broken.
And then they go land their 100% stun Abare or GeneiJin stuff off a random luck parry.
All games have stupid shit, just because it’s impossible to tap forward to negate a fireball doesn’t make 3s a lot more fair than Super Turbo.
Not all 3s players are like that, but a lot of them do complain about ticks and fireball traps. And I do submit that you 3s guys get a lot of heat from classic game players. Hopefully ST HD Remix won’t suck and will actually be arcade accurate so that we can get some new players. (Here’s hoping that Capcom won’t make me pay for yet another Sub-Par ST… I mean, 3DO version, PC, SFII collection on PSX, DC version, AE, CCC2… I’ve been buying “ST” for too many years)
If a person who has been playing for (for instance) five years disagrees with the opinion of somebody who has been playing for (for instance) ten years, the ten year player is invariably correct, by virtue that he is OG, and thus, more informed.
The originals are better, and the only people who don’t think so are the ones who have never played them.
The only people who like 3S are the ones who have never played anything else.
Am I correct in my summation of your shitheaded little rant?
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