OK, can someone just break down the risk/reward shit for me?
What is it? Player 1 attacks? Player 2 parries everything with perfect guesses? Player 2 wins?
If you’ve played, or even seen any SF3 matches, you’ll know that parry doesn’t automatically stun the player for 2 seconds and allow you to get close to try your best combo. Since when is someone at the perfect range for parry+high dmg punish everytime, AND the opponent never baits the parry by cancelling into special/super?
Sometimes parrying is just plain stupid to do.
Buffering in parries all the time can sometimes screw you up because you didn’t have time for the throw tech or went for throw tech option select and got hit with a slow overhead, or got throw baited and then got thrown. Or even varied the timing of your attacks. If you are getting parried regularly, you are just getting read too much, simple as that.
parry is way easier to option select than any mechanic in any other game, and it’s completely unpunishable if you guess wrong - to beat buffer parry you have to absolutely know they’re going to parry at that exact moment - calling that punishable is like saying low short is punishable because if you know it’s coming you can DP it. the issue with parry isn’t that everyone can parry everything perfectly, but that its safeness and the ease with which it can be option selected, as well as the incredibly imbalanced reward you receive for a successful parry, forces you to play in a way that means you won’t regularly get parried - i.e. minimal range play, minimal blocked setups, lots of mixing up different quick, bufferable hits and throwing a lot and backing off if you don’t get a hit.
Yeah… and? What’s the problem? People are annoyed that the game plays in that way and it’s called Street Fighter III? Because they were raised on a certain type of gameplay, and now pissed cause they see this type of gameplay as a de-evolution. Even though it can’t really be measured in the same way as SFII, because SFIII approaches 2D fighting in a totally different way, not better, not worse, just DIFFERENT.
You could argue the same way about Ping Pong vs Tennis til the cows come home, but peeps are still playing both competitively.
or if you don’t like other peoples opinions on a site where opinions are welcomed you could just shut the fuck up as well. THAT, my friend is even less complicated shit…Seriously.
I think that all it ever really takes for a fighting game to get no attention by players is if the top players (or wannabees) say they stay away from one game for one reason or another. Most everyone else who wants to seem like they have wicked deep info on the game or who are just too damn scared/lazy to play a game that?s not popular and find out for themselves, will repeat what the top or respected gamers are saying therefore helping to push away any potential players of said game.
This is no excuse really though. Stupid is always stupid and dumb is most certainly always dumb, but that?s just this mans opinion.
How hard is it to say, “you know what Mr. Chosen by god Never Ending Knowledge Of Fighting Games That Dare Not Be Challenged dude, I hear what your sayin bout: INSERT GAME TITLE n all, but I’m still gonna play the game and find out for myself before I just kick it to the curb regardless of how many post you have on whatever shitty site, who your friends are, what tournaments you?ve been in, who you have beaten in money matches, whos in your runnin crew, how consistent your game play is, that you have been to Japan, that you once got john Choi an extra straw for his drink at burger king (ohhhhh), how great your spelling and typing skills are, how well you can draw Chun Li, that you have made or are making a mad skills combo video, that Daigo let you eat his left over ginger at a sushi restaurant, or that your girlfriend is 1 quarter Japanese.”
If all gamers just went ahead and played a game (even if not many other people are) and found out for themselves weather or not its fun for T-H-E-M, then I think that games like 3rd Strike wouldn?t have such a slow start, a shitty rep, or a shady history.
Haha, why are you trying to act like what I said is obvious when YOU were the one trying to equate parry as just another variation on defensive systems in other games when it clearly isn’t?
While whether something is objectively “deeper” is a pretty nebulous thing, people act like 3S has added strategic elements which don’t exist in other games, when as far as I can tell all it offers is a pared-down set of skills that were already around in SF2. What exactly is in SF3 that makes it so “totally different” and incomparable to SF2? Playing safe? Footsie-range baiting/whiff punishing? Mixups on wakeup? Low-risk option selects? Yeah, these are new and revolutionary gameplay elements alright. :rolleyes: All SF3 adds is an arbitrary necessity to mix up high and low attacks.
Sorry for yet again showing my n00bness, but is the reason why people are mad about 3S because it plays nothing like the previous Street Fighters? Aka the "Resident Evil 4 dilemma
Weird. I didn’t realize it was so rare to like both the SF2 and SF3 series. I’ve always dug both for different reasons. But my bad. I’ll try to be more pissed off in the future.
its pretty funny how goodm0urning is so quick to condemn anyone who criticizes anything and in doing so has managed to become one of the biggest whiners on srk
I don’t remember condemning anybody. I remember facetiously calling everybody–you included–a bunch of nerds. What I said was less a condemnation of anybody, and more pointing out that the SRK posters are criticizing the game for often diametrically opposed reasons. I hope the absurdity escapes nobody.
However, if you take that as a condemnation, I can’t say I mind much. Who am I to get in the way of good Internet drama?