SF2: WW tier list

SpinalBlood · February 6, 2007, 9:10pm

LOOOL

Middlekick · February 6, 2007, 9:55pm

SPM would be proud.

System_1 · February 6, 2007, 10:02pm

Who the hell is Sim?

Gimpy · February 6, 2007, 10:07pm

Dhalsim.

System_1 · February 6, 2007, 10:23pm

any ww match vids?

System_1 · February 6, 2007, 11:05pm

Oh! I KNEW that!

Abhi · February 7, 2007, 12:10am

OMG I thought Ryu was second behind Guile ?

nomrah · February 7, 2007, 1:18am

Sim’s justification for being 2nd is the fact that he’s the only one that really has a chance against WW Guile.

Shinto · February 7, 2007, 2:31am

LoL so I could imagine a tourny full of Guile and Dhalsim.:lol:

System_1 · June 15, 2007, 1:14am

Sorry to bring up an old thread, but i got stuff to add.

Hehe, the London tourney was probably Super Vs Battle. As far as i know i was the only person busting heads there with World Warrior characters. Mainly WW Sim with a little WW Guile. After alot of hard matches and a redizzy, i eventually came 3rd with alot of help from ST Dictator in the later stages. I was fairly new to WW sim back then, but i gotta say he is a very solid character, and in my personal opinion a secret high tier character.

Vids

My Redizzy on Chunkis with WW-Guile in last 16.
[media=youtube]3PUzwaqicmA[/media]

The Matches from my group (you’ll probably need to register on the forum before you can download)
http://www.neoempire.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=1397

Top 8 - I use WW-sim in the semi-final against Progidal Son, i lose
http://www.neoempire.com/svb2k7hsf.htm

OK, about the Tiers.
Heres supposedly an official Tier list from Capcom i found on a.g.sf2. Not sure about the source, but looks pretty accurate, apart from Gief. Also Sim’s score doesn’t add up to 38, its 35.

Which character is the best? How do characters compare against one
another?

    This is how Capcom rates each character's potential versus the other 
    characters.  Each number represents how many matches out of 10 the 
    character on the left would win against opponents on the top. 
    (This chart is pre-Championship Edition.) 


              Guile Dhalsim Chun Li Blanka Ken/Ryu Honda Zangief    total 


    Guile     -     5       6       7       6       8       8        40 
    Dhalsim   5     -       5       4       7       6       8        38 
    Chun Li   4     5       -       6       6       4       6        31 
    Blanka    3     6       4       -       6       4       6        29 
    Ryu/Ken   4     3       4       4       -       7       7        29 
    Honda     2     4       6       6       3       -       7        28 
    Zangief   2     2       4       4       3       3       -        18 


    Note that this table is arguable, and in any case, it is only a measure 
    of a character's *potential* against others.  A character is only as 
    good as the player using him/her.

polarity · June 15, 2007, 2:29am

ugh x_x

System_1 · June 15, 2007, 2:43am

It’s frequently stated that shotos are the absolute worst in WW.

I fail to see how they don’t beat Honda or Chun-Li, though.

UltraDavid · June 15, 2007, 3:01am

Haha, Capcom had an official tier list? Did they PLAN for Gief to lose every matchup? That’s pretty retarded, if so. And talk about being way off with his matchups.

Josh-TheFunkDOC · June 15, 2007, 3:04am

IMO Gief is 3rd best.

If he gets one knockdown vs. anyone, it’s over. WW characters can’t perform reversals, a property which remains even in AE.

-Josh

Return_of_Shiki · June 15, 2007, 3:09am

From the Japanese tier-lists I’ve seen:

Guile is the best character in the game, Dhalsim is the only character who can beat Guile, and Chun counters Dhalsim straight out.

So it’s:
Everyone Else < Guile < Dhalsim < Chun < Guile

EDIT: Zang is kinda the Wild Card…for the reasons Josh just mentioned.

Cardinal_Sin · June 16, 2007, 1:54pm

When people say that WW had no reversals, what actually happens when you input a DP on the first frame of getting up / getting out of blockstun? Is the character completely vulnerable (i.e. can’t block, can’t do any inputs on stick) for that 1 frame?

edit: ok wait not being able to block is pretty dumb statement

but does the game just not accept button inputs? I guess I find it kind of strange that they explicitly coded it so you couldn’t attack for a set period of time.

rogueyoshi · June 16, 2007, 1:57pm

well, reversals are there so that you can input a move a bit before actually recovering.

Cardinal_Sin · June 16, 2007, 1:59pm

ohhhhh … so the game just doesn’t let you input anything WHILE you are in either state (except for charge I guess), that makes sense.

System_1 · June 16, 2007, 4:18pm

I would actually rank gief 4th and chun 3rd. We all know the dangers of Geif of in WW, but no one has really mentioned the strangeness with Chun’s normals. If you look at her hitboxes (viewable with some hardwork in Kawaks), then you’ll see some of her hit boxes which the opponent hits are placed, practically behind her. For example her HP at the right range will just beat out a dragon punch.

Abhi · June 16, 2007, 4:59pm

Since Guile since the best, how does he fare in anniversery edition?