SF2 Koryu tier list discussion

[Mow]

I guess he can hang because he can Michelle Branch throw

Dhalsim is soooooo good in Comunist Red Edition. ULTRA FAST WALK SPEED into yoga noogie is just wayyyyy too powerful.

Also, I have bad news for you Zach. Vanessa Carlton sings 1,000 Miles, not Michelle Branch. “I Michelle Branch’d you” has a much better ring to it though. I don’t think we should change it.

[Keits]

never once said Ken isn’t the best. in fact in my tier list, I list him and Ryu at the top. I just said I think Guile can fight him. Fuck, I think Zangief can fight him. I think with some serious training, Vega could be a threat… that’s totally unfounded thinking though

even if Ken is the ABSOLUTE UNDISPUTED BEST AND NO ONE IN KORYU CAN TOUCH HIM EVAR, EVAR, EVARAR23ER423$@$@$U2853754238590238409283412#!#@!$!@$@!!!, I don’t think MP shoryuken is the way to go. that move is pretty fucking damaging if it hits you naked but it leaves you too open

There is no “open” in a game where hitstun, blockstun, dizzy or knockdown don’t matter.

Edit - Yeah, Im just getting too mad now. Anyway, this is all that needs to be said.

[Colino]

I love how in detail and passionate this discussion of SF2 KORYU has gone… I’m amazed I haven’t seen anyone citing frame data yet XD

[omfg]

You do realize you can cancel out of being hit and go into another immediate shoryuken right? I was mostly directing my comments at the OP as well, because Zangief is nowhere near the level of Ken/Ryu. I guess he can hang because he can Michelle Branch throw

Vega can not do anything about Shoryuken spam.

Anotak: Ken/Ryu mirrors are all about who can shoryuken first. Like I mentioned before, there’s a max number of projectiles allowed on screen, and whoever shoryukens first gets most of them.

i’m aware of the properties of specials in that game. I’m not sure about Vega’s potential to fight it, but I think there’s a few things he can do. I wouldn’t have even reallly listed him, I still think he’s not that good but he does seem to have certain useful tools

Edit - Yeah, Im just getting too mad now. Anyway, this is all that needs to be said.

There is no “open” in a game where hitstun, blockstun, dizzy or knockdown don’t matter.

if you say so

I’m not trying to piss you off or change your mind. but if you want to believe something false, I’m not going to stop you. especially if you’re defending it like it’s a religion…

[necronomiCRON]

I feel that tiers in this game ARE unimportant. It’s a game created for fun and only fun so why do you have to take it so seriously. By creating tiers that will cause people to pick a particular char with advantages over another, which will in turn take away the fun factor and make it more competitive. I’m merely stating why not just use this as a get away game instead of automatically classifying tiers like in other fighters.

[graupel]

I don’t know shit about the game, but something just crossed my mind:

Can’t Rog do the turn-around-punch in order to go through Ken’s hadoukens?

[Abhi]

How good is my boy Ryu ?, as I only played this game once in 1993 I think

[Anotak]

Anotak: Ken/Ryu mirrors are all about who can shoryuken first. Like I mentioned before, there’s a max number of projectiles allowed on screen, and whoever shoryukens first gets most of them.

I know. I played this game a lot more than any human being should. We spent a lot of time trying to find counterpicks to ryu and ken but we were unsuccessful.

It’s like how godly guile is on rainbow edition, just can’t be stopped.

[Mariodood]

I feel that tiers in this game ARE unimportant. It’s a game created for fun and only fun so why do you have to take it so seriously. By creating tiers that will cause people to pick a particular char with advantages over another, which will in turn take away the fun factor and make it more competitive. I’m merely stating why not just use this as a get away game instead of automatically classifying tiers like in other fighters.

The tiers are there whether you look at them or not. Players who want to win always have character selection in mind.

[Sleazoid]

I don’t know shit about the game, but something just crossed my mind:

Can’t Rog do the turn-around-punch in order to go through Ken’s hadoukens?

I don’t think Balrog had TAP back in CE.

[AtTheGates]

MP tiger uppercut can instant kill.

sagat + ken top tier (ken mp dp for hados).

/closethread.

[yourmother]

Guys I think Honda is top tier because he doesn’t have to charge his headbutt so he can go across the screen whenever he feels like it and then he can slap you.

[omfg]

I know. I played this game a lot more than any human being should. We spent a lot of time trying to find counterpicks to ryu and ken but we were unsuccessful.

I’d be interested to hear what you learned about the game

[polarity]

I feel that tiers in this game ARE unimportant. It’s a game created for fun and only fun so why do you have to take it so seriously. By creating tiers that will cause people to pick a particular char with advantages over another, which will in turn take away the fun factor and make it more competitive. I’m merely stating why not just use this as a get away game instead of automatically classifying tiers like in other fighters.

every thread is 100% serious

[omfg]

oh holy shit. I think I need to change my tier list PRONTO. Ryu’s the best, fuck Ken

edit: hey, while we’re on this… it’s relating to koryu but a lil bit outside of the topic. how popular was this game?

[_MJ_R]

why would anyone play this game more then once just to see what is about
silly game imo

[The_Electrifying_One]

There’s quite a lot of unlimited run away in this game, so I think hit once, run away for time out can beat mp shoryus.

[yourmother]

why would anyone play this game more then once just to see what is about
silly game imo

On this note…

Koryu for EVO! Who’s with me?!?!

[graupel]

I don’t think Balrog had TAP back in CE.

Oh, I see.

[Sleazoid]

so popular that hyper fighting was created to spite the bootleg ce versions