I would say that whichever movie sold more tickets is the more popular movie. Since Ryu has a better WIN record than Ken he is better. Simple enough for you?
Ryu beats Ken most of the time. He says so in Third Strike. That’s all I really need to say. You just need to go read the Street Fighter Plot Guide.
Okay, listen again you little motherfucker you:
Udon is keeping the comic close to the original story. So far just about everything is close. Ryu beat Sagat.Gouki killed Gouken.Ryu turns evil and meets Gouki.Ken marries Eliza. Bison goes after Ryu.Charlie dies fighting Bison.
Hmmm, so far just about everything seems to mesh with the real SF story. Ken being better than Ryu is not part of the real story, therefor it doesn’t need to be in the comic.
I am not making excuses. I am explaining why he lost. Ryu lost because he was effed up in the head, not because Ken is better than him. Ryu is clearly better than Ken, since he beatsw Ken most of the time. Again read the Street Fighter Plot Guide.
Ryu does have the better record against Ken. Go read the Street Fighter Plot Guide or play Third Strike. Ryu’s mid-boss is Ken. Ryu points out that he beats Ken most of the time. This does hurt your argument if you are trying to imply that Ken is better than Ryu. It means that you are wrong. Go read the Street Fighter Plot Guide.
No, in all the official results compiled about the Third Strike story it was determined that Ryu beat Ken. Read the Street Fighter Plot Guide. You really, really need to read this. Alex gets beat by Ryu in his OFFICIAL ENDING. Not Ryu’s ending, Alex’s. Alex lost to Ryu in his own ending.
Ryu says he has a better record than Ken in the in game dialogue young grasshopper. Ken has no in game dialogue where he syas he’s better than Ryu. Ryu says it to Ken because it’s the truth. And considering Ryu beats Alex in Alex’s personal ending, yeah, it’s gospel that Ryu beat Alex.
LOL!!
And I’m telling you Sagat would kill Ken. Ryu only beat Sagat because of the Satsui no Hadou. Ken does not possess this ability and is not as good as Ryu in general. Yes Sagat would have killed him.
Sigh…are you acting like this because you know you’re wrong, or do you actually communicate like this? If it’s the later, that’s pretty sad.
Well Ryu beats Ken more often than not, so it’s a pretty good match, for Ryu that is.
So do you get anally raped when you are proved wrong?
Well Mum Rah the ever living tells me it’s time for you to read the Street Fighter Plot Guide.
Ryu stated IN GAME that he had the better record. It was in the actual game itself. Ryu was taling about his record against Ken. Why is it so hard for you to understand this concept?
Ryu to Ken, “I still have the better win record.” End of story. Looks like you are delusional.
I’m pretty sure Ryu beating Alex in Third Strike was stated on Capcom’s webpage for a while as well. Generally speaking, it seems pretty darn safe to assume that nearly every Third Strike ending happened because Capcom sure as heck seems to be going along with that where ever it pops up.
You offend all reason, Mr. Larusso. You are not the karate kid. You’re fucking ridiculous. Do you have half a million people telling you the *same *shit? Doesn’t that say something? Cuz it should. Pull your head out of your ass, get past your fucking ego and FESS up to the god damn truth. Christ. I can just see all of your friends tellin’ you your bitch slept around behind your back, but your ignorant ass would just be sittin’ there like "Nah, man! She LOVES me! I’m the KID! I’m LION-O in this BITCH!"
How can one person be so retarded?
Before you reply to this please go to: http://www.brokebackmountain.com and you show me what game can you find CAPCOM?S word that Ryu is SO much better than Ken. You?d have about as much luck finding it there as you would on your link.
I would say that I did not ask what movie is the ?more popular? movie. I asked what was the ?better? movie. And just for you reading pleasure I will even address that little nugget you threw in there that I didn?t even say - Titanic sold more tickets than Star Wars, yet ?the argument can be made? that Star Wars is the MORE POPULAR movie!
Damn, I?m so good I scare MYSELF!
And where did you learn to reply to every sentence and change the subject? I thought I told you, I see through you and your replies. Lion-O, remember? ThunderCats Ho?
Again, so fucking what? IF Ryu beats Ken most of the time, it doesn?t hurt my argument. You DON?T HAVE THE FACTS to hurt my argument.
Even if you say Ryu beats Ken ALL the time, he STILL lost to him when he fought him in Alpha! A time when YOU claim he was ?more powerful than Ken.? So YOU say he was more powerful than Ken, but Capcom says he lost. Hmm, who am I going to believe here?
I think I?ll believe you.
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No, no I change my mind. I think I?ll go with Capcom on that one. I had a change of heart.
Okay, listen again you little motherfucker you: Maybe you didn?t realize you were arguing with The Kid, but let me show you once again, sight beyond sight.
Look what you?re doing with that statement above? PATHETIC! First of all you?re taking about KEY moments in Street Fighter history. ?Ken marries Eliza,? LOL. No shit that?s gonna be in the book!
Then you said ?Ken being better than Ryu is not part of the real story.? Bitch, I?m not saying Ken is better than Ryu. You may fool these other motherfuckers who are replying for you by trying to make my argument for you, but you?re not fooling The Kid.
I said Ryu is better than Ken, but not by much. THAT is my argument. THAT is up for interpretation. And THAT can be addressed one way or another in the comic book.
Hmm, why don?t I do what you?re doing and make up your argument for you. Let?s see:
?DoTheMove, you?re crazy! Ken and Ryu did NOT have a cameo appearance in ?Citizen Kane!? They weren?t even created then! How dare you claim they were in that movie??
Now I wonder if I can get some scragglers on to post for me and tell you that you offend all reason by posting that? Might be worth a shot.
Again, read the Brokeback Mountain screen play. Now when you?re done reading that, read my reply to your above statement:
Oooh, so you?re telling me WHY he lost, his head wasn?t in it, huh? Sorry buddy, he still lost. Ken?s head was in it, he can?t be responsible for Ryu?s head. Oh, except when he pounded it in the ground that fight.
Justin Wong loses MvC2 2005 to Duc Do. Justin?s head might not have been in it, so does Duc give him his first place prize money and ask for the loss to be stricken from Justin?s record? No, he doesn?t, and Justin doesn?t ask him too.
Because Justin has the common sense to know that if you pay your entry money and enter a tournament, your personal demons and problems you got going on in your life are not taken into account when you get peaced out, much like Ryu did.
Go read the Brokeback Mountain screen play. I don?t give a shit if Ryu has the better record. I?d just as well assume that he DOES. However, by YOUR logic, since Ken wasn?t in SFI, and they didn?t fight in SFII, and Ryu won a fight after SFIII (this is just me spotting you the assumption that Ryu?s fight with Ken DID happen in SFIII, and Ken?s fight with Ryu DIDN?T happen, just so I can help to bolster your argument, lol) ? Their IN GAME record is 1 to 1.
You feel that? That?s The Kid?s aura you feel. You?ll never forget the time you tried to argued with me for as long as you?re on this site. You will rue my name whenever you see it. Consider this a learning experience, don?t hang your head when it?s over.
See the above post.
Young grasshopper, I don?t care if Ryu has a better record than Ken. That might help your make believe argument, the one where you?re trying to convince yourself that I?m saying Ken is better than Ryu, but it doesn?t help your actual argument against me.
Ken also has no in game dialogue where he says he?s better than Dan. So I guess we are to assume he?s not.
Righhhht.
Here you are again, with what ?would? happen. Jesus WOULD kill Ryu if they fought, but they didn?t, so until then we?ll stick to what ?did? happen.
You?ve done a lot of babbling and topic changing, but you haven?t proved me wrong.
That?s a good question, I guess we?ll never know.
The Eye of Thundara tells me that until you find the official Capcom plot guide that tells me Ryu is SO much better than Ken, and has more natural ability - you?ll feel the magic and hear the roar.
Again, I don?t give a shit. Ryu probably has the better record, shit I was GIVING HIM THAT from the beginning. And ?the better win record,? doesn?t hurt my argument in the LEAST. Hell, all that tells me is that Ryu is happy he has a better record.
SPOTTING you that he is talking about his versus record against Ken ? Again, JUST to help out your argument ? It doesn?t tell me what that record is! The ?better? record could be 5 to 3, it could be 90 to 12 or it COULD be 2 to 1.
When Ryu says his record against Ken is 50 to 5, then I?ve lost the argument. So open up Google and search to your hearts content. There seems to be a link you like to give out to help with SF canon, I?ll be a nice guy give you that link so you don?t have to go searching for it. Don?t worry, it?s just the kind of person I am: http://www.shadowhaxor.net/image%20hosting/SFplotguide40.txt
“If Oro is stronger than Alex, how come Alex won the tournament?”
This was because Oro didn’t show up for his match against Alex as he dropped out after beating Ryu, therefore making Alex the one to fight Gill.
I think everyone is missing the point that DanielLarusso is trying to make.
While Ryu is better, Ken has the better natural talent.
If for example, it takes Ryu ten days of hard training to throw a Fireball, it will probably take Ken 3 days to do the same move, probably even better.
If Ken took his training as serious as Ryu, then he would be able to beat him. However, since Ken actually has a life, it’s obvious that Ken’s skills wouldn’t be as strong as Ryu’s since he doesn’t have the time to train like Ryu.
I think that’s what DanielLarusso was trying to say.
let just say Ken was better than ryu in alpha when ken beats ryu. Doesn’t matter if ryu head was straight or not, he still lost. A lost is a lost, no excuses. IF you enter a fight you better be prepared. THerefore ken is better in alpha.
Now in street fighter 3rd third strike, we can just argue that ryu is better due to his better record over ken. And the fact that ken hasn’t been dedicated to his training as Ryu. if you are not dedicated as your rival than you deserve to be second best. Ryu is dedicated so it is a given that his skills is probably better than ken. Plus Ryu straight out said that he has a better record.
Each has an advantage over each other during the series, but man imagine what would happen to ken if ryu went dark hado on his ass. Instant death!!!
Actually third strike takes place after the tournament and the only reason Alex won was becasue Gill basicly let him win the tournament. So ryu did defeat Alex just not at the tournament.
edit also Oro drop out of the tournament when he defeated Ryu.
His point is wrong. Even when Ryu and Ken were both training every day under Gouken Ryu was still better than Ken. Ken realized this and took to wearing a bright red dogi so that he would stand out better, and people would look to him, even though Ryu was the better fighter. His point is not based on any facts. Where has Capcom ever stated that Ken was naturally better, or a faster learner? I’ve never seen that stated anywhere. All I see are consistant reminders that Ryu is superior to Ken. Ryu was better in SF1, Ryu got beat in Alpha 2 only because he was a basket case, Ryu is better in SF2, and Ryu beats Ken after SF3. According to this Ken really can’t stand up against Ryu, unless Ryu’s just not really trying.
And is it just me, or does DanielLarusso REALLY like Brokeback Mountain?
That logic doesn’t make any damn sense. Say you’re PLAYING Street Fighter Alpha with your little brother, who is inferior to you in terms of skill. But as you’re playing, your girlfriend is over and she’s fussing at you about some bullshit, you get distracted, and because your head isn’t in the match, your little brother beats you. Does that mean that he’s better than you, just because he beat you in one match where you were barely even paying attention? No excuses my ass.
Just to point out that Ryu and Ken have never had a serious fight. Ever. They have friendly sparring matches and that’s it. While Ryu has the better win record (and is the better fighter because it’s his game naturally) you shouldn’t put too much meaning behind these wins/losses IMHO.
if im assuming that the fight between ryu and ken is an actual real fight than it makes a lot of sense. in a real fight if you are not prepared than you may not have a second chance. If you are easily distracted during your match and you lose than you are only second best. Your distraction have nothing to do with your opponent. did your opponent distract you? if you feel that you are not ready to fight than you shouldn’t accept the challenge. if ryu was fighting sagat and was distracted, he would have been killed, that means that sagat is better because ryu doesn’t have a second chance to prove to everyone that he was better.
I put it in a video game sense, Say you are in a street fighter video game tournament. you are playing for the grand prize. IF you get distracted than who fault is it? its not the guy you’re playing against. IF you lose than who wins the grand prize?? You have only one chance if you not going to do your best than you’re pretty much done for. WHat you going to do? go to the judges and cry about it? he may not better than you, but when he beat you, he was better. if you got distracted, he could have been distracted too, but he didnt so that made him better than you
Losing a fight becasue the opponent is better is completely different than losing because you were distracted.
Did Ryu lose? Yes.
Did he lose because Ken was better than him? No.
Did he lose because he was distracted by the Satsui no Hado and his meeting with Gouki? Yes. It even says Ryu was distracted in the ending.
Ryu is obviously not going to turn down a match with Ken. It didn’t matter that he wasn’t mentally prepared or in the right state of mind. He took the match becasue they fight every time they meet. Did Ryu lose? Yes. Is it becasue Ken is better? No.
When Ken beats Ryu a reason is given for it. (preoccupied with SNH and Gouki)
When Ryu beats Ken no explaination is needed. He’s just better than Ken.
