Seth Video Thread

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yo onlinetony, nice rufus fights vs justin, your seth is solid as fuck, i like your style alot.
Too bad Seth sucks against anyone that has a clue (how to fight him,) lol.

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[]Stop jumping backwards all the time. Seth may get out of the corner pretty easy, but you just defeat the whole purpose of throwing Sonic Booms if they can just walk forwards and chase you. And people can punish your walljumps out if they have good reaction time to jump up/backwards and throw something out. Then you eat a good chunk of damage and you’re still stuck in the corner. The biggest trick to getting out of the corner with Seth is to be unpredictable and patient. Still, walljumping out worked for you most of the time in the matches I saw, so whatever. Just saying.
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]Every time you do a jump-in you just do jump back fierce. If this is all you’re going to do, why are you jumping in the first place? There’s no mixup, so there’s no reward versus a smart opponent and still plenty of risk.
[]You need to land the ultra more. There was one match in there where a Rog did TAP through Sonic Booms a lot. Punish that shit. Either DP it or ultra it. And if someone jumps over a Sonic Boom you need to ultra them, every time.
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]You lost versus the Rufus because you relied too much on jumping fierce. Rufus’s j.hk owns your jumping fierce and then Rufus can kill you with ultra.

[]If you want to play a zoning game that’s your own choice, but simply running away for the sake of running away won’t do anything. You do want to be elusive so that they can never get to you, but you can’t just do jump back fierce all day. It’s punishable. People can jump forwards and counter-hit you out of the j.hp for really good damage if you’re predictable. Now you can make them second-guess this a lot of different ways, mostly by not jumping every time you get an opportunity and then anti-airing them if they jump at you anyway.
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]You did a good job at AA’ing with the super.
[*]Make sure you actually hit-confirm with j.hp -> cr.mk xx legs. Legs is so unsafe on block that you should usually die if it gets blocked.
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Sorry if I’m harsh, all I’m trying to do is help you get better.

No problem, i can take harsh =)
Thanks for all the tips, i’m trying real hard to try and hitconfirm, but i can’t seem to do it with j.HP, cr.MKxxLegs. A favourite combo of mine which i’m actually able to hitconfirm is after a (HK) jumpin, HPxxSonic Boom, FADC, HPxxlegs. If they are blocking i usually go for SPD after the FADC. But on this borrowed stick+tournament environment i didn’t even try it. Also i really suck at cr.LK, cr.LP, cr.MPxxLegs, which i can do 9 times out of 10 in training mode but always fuck up in actual matches, which sucks since i see in most Seth vids how useful that one is.
But like i said in my post, in casual matches i am way more agressive than in these vids (maybe not as aggresive as OnlineTony, but getting there).

Sorry to say but you seems to play incredibly flowchart:

  1. Start
  2. Jump back fierce
  3. Sonic boom > 2 or 4
  4. Walljump hk > 2
    When in corner:
    Walljump d.mk > 2

With only very slight variation.

The only people this will beat are people who really don’t know the Seth matchup, to everyone else it’s easily punishable and very predictable. Basicly do what Kikuichimonji said, and maybe watch some of the videos Tony has put up recently to get a better idea of playing smarter with Seth.

Came across this seth vid. [media=youtube]gijk4nyuwvY[/media] Not mine but wanted to add it in case it gave anyone ideas about future combo’s or setup’s

thanks alot man…i fought him again in the next ranbat i only won one round and the others either rape or very close…

where u stay at now man…??
haven’t seen u play in a while??

http://www.youtube.com/user/TheGameneo#p/c/3917E734A17EB845

Just a random set I did. Feedback would be appreciated.

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[]That cr.lk -> s.lp -> s.hp xx legs is dumb. It whiffs on crouchers so it’s not a safe hit-confirm and it scales your combo so it does less damage than just s.hp xx legs. If you get a crumple either do s.hk -> cr.mp xx legs or do cr.hp xx lp shoryu juggle. If you don’t want to do the link in the corner just do cr.hp -> legs.
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]If you’re going to use meter in a punish combo start it off with a neutral j.hk or a forward j.hk instead of a level 3 focus. It does more damage.
[*] s.hp xx sonic boom FADC s.hp xx legs -> stomps does more damage than s.hp xx sonic boom xx EX Focus Cancel -> level 2 focus -> s.hp xx legs -> stomps. So don’t combo into the level 2 FA except mid-screen because it scales your combo a lot. I don’t even do it mid-screen because it’s not entirely consistent, I do EX tandem if I’m using meter or FADC s.hp xx legs if I’m hit-confirming off of cr.mk xx sonic boom.
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I mean your reset shenanigans were pretty decent and your execution was good so that’s about all I can say. You kinda steamrolled him because he couldn’t deal with you threatening focus and jumping in.

thanks for the feedback but I neglected to say that most of these videos were for montage so I was doing flashy shit for the sake of entertainment. Also I do that most of the time to keep my execution sharp.

About the focus, yes I know doing a jump in or neutral jump does more damage but with focus level 3 your guaranteed a hit with no block and if they have turbo or its laggy it helps.

Also what video did you see? I linked my playlist but I think people are only seeing the video in the front.

But im going to make a serious playlist in the near future to show my true seth.

@bold: ya I know but its just for showing off or when I know my opponent sucks so bad that its not even a fight.

Well my point stands for all 4 videos. None of them AA’d you consistently. None of them punished you for threatening focus. So there wasn’t a real game in any of them. Your mixups, execution and setups seem good but that’s all I can say. I would tell you not to jump in so much but they didn’t AA you anyway so I can’t really argue that. That’s all there was to the matches, you doing mixups because they didn’t deal with your jump-ins.

I’m not saying you played badly at all. But if you played like that versus more solid people you’ll just get AA’d all day. It’s just that there was no footsies or fireball trapping really at all in those games, and footsies is what separates an okay player and a good player.

I have a replay up on XBL vs a Sagat player.

I’d love to see videos of you playing as Seth! Do you have any?

There are a few in this thread, but you’re gonna have to look for them yourself :slight_smile:

I don’t think this has beeen posted yet, more action from the “King of Seth” himself OnlineTony213… lol.

OnlineTony213 (Seth) vs. Keno (Balrog) - LA Riots III Gatekeeper Qualifier #1

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I’m ashamed to say at 8:28 I was doubting onlinetony! Nice match =).

aahhh
thank u CEO!!

I Was just About To Post It…
Man That Day…The Stick i Borrow at the Time was A Little Weird…
like u c in da video…
i’m doing my links then Mp into nothin…

during the match…i was like WTF!!! how come my shit ain’t coming out!!!
then it happened again later on in the same tournament…same stick…which cost me the game…LAME!!!

Curious, who pressed start?

I wouldn’t say Mp into nothing… that wouldn’t be so bad if that’s all that happened… but Mp and then standing fierce= Keno: “YESSSS, free damage on frail Seth!”

i did cuz i was excited…lol