I can imagine the Seth topic already…
“Give him back his yoga sniper!”
“Increase health to 950!”
“Increase SPD damage / range!”
“More damage on U1!”
“EX tandem should only take 1 bar!”
“Increased walk speed!”
“He’s the boss character, he should be the most powerful!”
I heavily suggest people to play the character first at all and then make the suggestions and also think about BALANCING.
(I can imagine that some of my suggestions are going a bit too far, but I try to give the best possible proposals, …really.)
"His super currently is the easiest one to avoid by ducking. At the very least he should be able to grab you with his super if you duck on full screen. This would force players to come to Hakan rather than avoiding him easily."
If my opponent is a camper, then I can oil up(EX Oil Shower can be cancelled into Coward Crouch to avoid attacks.)
"His oil time can be further increased, if you use your full ex meter on oiling you shouldn’t have to worry about running out rest of the round otherwise why even bother. Oil times would be more fair if it was 10 sec for LP,15 mp, 20 Hp and 99 sec for using full meter."
This buff will make all Oil Shower versions besides LK worthless. Why? LK has the lowest recovery and gives a you nice amount of oil at the same time. So at the beginning of a match, just backdash and then use LK Oil shower 2-3 times, after this you got enough Oil,lol.
"Also I suggest that he gets an additional move called “throw escape” where he can slip away from his opponents paws halfway into the throw and remain unharmed. This should only be available when he is oiled up. Imagine he just slips out of Gief’s PD mid air."
Translation please.
"Lastly Hakan can be easily zoned out by fireballs."
Coward Crouch, EX Oil Shower, Oil Dive, Oil Slide, Super Combo, lol even U2 can be used against fireballs.
Oh and a lot of members of the zoning cast are also prone against crossups, just abuse it.
I actually wonder if they did all those in one week by accident or they did it on purpose because they wanted to see if they could set the record for the largest crap storm ever.
Come on now… you KNOW it’s the latter.
El Fuerte is that week as well. I cannot wait. Comedy gold I am sure.
There is this guy Zuuku that wants you to be able to mash Gen Gekiro after the first hit on all versions similar to the EX version and make E.Ryu’s MK Axe kick +5 on hit and make Rose’s cr.LK to cr.MP a 2f link… wtf?
fuck el fuerte and blanka.
lol @ all the crying in the e ryu thread over akuma’s teleport. so overpowered…but can still b hit by tatsu, hadoken, super, ultra, dash then attack (?)
Next week is my birthday. You KNOW I’m watching the Cammy / Akuma / Seth threads like a mother fucking HAWK, Gonna be the best present ever.
Evil Ryu:
-Increase health to 950
-Target Combo: Remove this, it’s completely useless and adds nothing to E. Ryu’s strategy.
-Tenma Kujin Kyaku: Change properties to match Akuma’s Demon Flip Dive Kick.
-Senpu Kyaku (F+MK): Make this move faster so it can be better used as a pressure tool.
-Air Tatsumaki: Alter this move so that it has the original properties of Air Hurricane Kicks from Vanilla SSF4.
-EX Air Tatsumaki: Make this move similar to Gouken’s Air Tatsumaki to differentiate it from the ground version.
-EX Shakunetsu Hadoken: Alter startup so it matches Regular Ryu’s EX Hadoken.
-Axe Kick: Make this a complete overhead.
-LK Axe Kick: Make this safe on block.
-MK Axe Kick: Make this slightly safer on block.
-HK Axe Kick: Make this move faster for mixup capabilities.
-EX Axe Kick: Remove knockdown property, make it 2 hits and give it enough advantage to easily combo into a cr.MP or cr.MK (so that it’s not a 1-frame link).
-Teleport: Alter properties so that it completely matches Akuma’s teleports in invincibility frames and travel distance.
I stopped at Hadouken of Evil. Gotta hate when good ki goes bad.
Oh man just think of the possibilities. Imput is all six buttons, takes 3 metre, a rising helicopter Gief with 200 frames of start up, first 19 hits do 5 damage each, if the last hit connect deals 2000 damage and fills Super to full, and on block or wiff Gief ends up in stun after he lands.
As expected, the Evil Ryu forum is blowing up with some brilliant stuff. Why aren’t these people pros?
Most of those are derpy but the bolded ones are just a new level of “thpecial” [note: I added the bolds]
^- response to the previous quote.
FFS people should be REQUIRED to play one of these: Rose/Cody/Makoto/Deejay/Vega/Blanka for at least a month before they ever bitch about “defense options.” ESPECIALLY if they mainly play a shoto.
Saw this in the Hakan forums. 2nd one is super duper insanely OP. First one made me laugh because Abel and Zangief both already walk at the same speed. So he wants it faster but slower than the same.
Someone asked for more Walkspeed on Evil Ryu. SRSLY? lol
Greedy, how dumb are you? Laser beams? This is ain´t Marvel.
Oh Greedy, before I forget it, ever heard of a Turquoise mineral?
Yeah sure, give him laser beams, make his SPD a FADC move into U2, Super Combo hits fullscreen ducking people(-.-), it can´t get more idiotic.
Oh and btw, a lot of his unoiled moves are having oiled the same framedata(I think it must be). So changing an unoiled normal will also affect the oiled one.
It’s not required. Oil works like a stance. The oiled and unoiled normals are actually two different moves entirely, they just happen to have the same frame data.
Saw that a couple times. MOST of the people are asking for faster walk speed on their character of choice. Seen it on Guy, seen it on Evil Ryu, seen it on Hakan, Ken, Yun, Abel, Gief, Hawk, Gouken, Dudley, Honda, Dan and Cody. I haven’t checked Deejay, Juri, Yang, or Gen yet but I’m sure it’s there in at least Juri and Gen. Frankly of all of the characters so far the only characters that seriously could use more walk speed of the ones listed are Cody and Dan IMO. Ken is a firm “MAYBE” but he has that amazing kara throw + kara dash and other tools to help him move across the screen quickly and has (other than a few outliers) fairly decent startup on his normals (especially his crouching ones which are all faster than average, with a c.MK and c.HP that rival some characters LIGHTS.)
Also shinebox, it must make you question your character of choice to see how many of these requests for evil ryu are flat out DUMB. I mean EVERY character thread has attracted a couple of idiots (hello “Alex” in the Cody thread.) but jeez it’s like a circle jerk of inbreds on the E Ryu thread. I can’t imagine how bad the Oni thread will be, especially since Combofiend plays Oni I’m sure there will be A LOT of people trying to persuade him to do stupid stuff like give Oni a teleport and 6F sweep like Akuma.
Someone also wanted a faster movement speed for Yang. Lol. S-tier walkspeed isn’t enough.
Eh, I play a bunch of characters, In terms of the threads the worst ones I have seen are in the Chun Li and Evil Ryu threads, the Ken ones were dumb too but not nearly as bad as what I have seen in the Evil Ryu thread so far.
I was honestly surprised at the quality of discourse in the Cody thread. Sure it had its idiots but I REALLY expected more people to be derpy in there. I fully expected it to basically be me + adn + zukuu holding back a tide of stupid on the Cody thread. I was pleasantly surprised at the low levels of stupidity. Which can’t be said for my other main: Makoto who had a TON of idiots asking for people to basically turn her into god tier.
That said, come on. We ALL knew Ryu, Ken, Sagat, Akuma, Oni, and Evil Ryu were going to bring out the dumbest people. I was REALLY surprised T-Hawk got so much attention over Zangief who I expected to be more popular.