Scrub Quotes: Capcom Unity Balance Suggestions Edition!

[Mike_Robertson]

from “honda” (about Honda)
-Stand mp can cancel fireball is a very good idea.(Like yan and yung has a way to cancel fireball)
-Apart from headbutt passing fireball , i want to suggest that headbutt can pass through seth tandam engine. When i play with seth, the whole matches are seyh practising the combo.
-Extended fierce hhs +15frames on hit to combo with ultra 1

[Oilforthewin]

"Parry - Kongoshin

• Does NOT lose to armor breaking hits. Does NOT lose to multiple hits. It should perform like Geese Howard’s counter throws in Capcom vs SNK. NO armor, just a reward for a correct read. Given that, the 3 zones would now make sense, the reward is now relative to the risk.

• It shouldn’t work like focus attack, there’s already focus attack for that.

• If need be EX counter can be the mindless counter that loses to armor break. Otherwise just get rid of the EX version of the move."

Oh my days! This is so retarted. That must be a joke.
Lol at the EX version.
Link is here:

Spoiler

http://www.capcom-unity.com/street_fighter/go/thread/view/7411/29831845/gouken-balance-suggestions?pg=15

[pietastic]

Teh Guile and Blanks should also get tired. Like when they are doing more than 5 sonic booms or electricity they walk slower and make less intimidating and growling noices. I cannot defeat them online they do the same things so if you do the same thing the game should punich you.

[sorrowstick]

Ken flowchart v2013 we da bes

http://i50.tinypic.com/vgtu1k.jpg

boy, i bet eddie is a real john cena fans…pity him.
i’m not surprise this guy would go riot if capcom might remove ken’s kara throw…
a throw that Dastagy spammed but drive him to retirement.

good one 4neqs…you really cheer me up. TQ.

[sorrowstick]

Going to spoiler this because it is massive.

[details=Spoiler]Along the line with balance I was hoping for beefing up all the characters. Here are some of my ideas.

Ryu:

Now has the ability to turn into evil Ryu, at the cost of his super bar and health decreases.

Move done anytime, just down three times and all three kicks. There is a changing animation that stops the timer and freezes play time. After the change there is a split second that Ryu can be hit. This change cause his defense to drop and offenceive options to open up. He loses his super bar for the rest of the match.

EVIL RYU:

Evil Ryu has no super moves, or ex moves,

His ultras are the same. However he now can use any of them. Has a choice.

1. Hadoken of evil: same.

2. Uppercut madness: same.

3. Demon rush: hidden? It was his old super move.

New throw: is the same as Ryus third throw.

Moves:

1. Fireball

2. Red fireball

3. Uppercut

4. Hurricane kick

5. Over head spin kick… Has same priority of Ryus slide kick.

6. Teleport. Has its bad points. It has been slowed down.

7. Air dive kick. At the peak of a jump, timing is very hard.

all moves are the same as they were. Has the same random ko, reverse ko, team ko, final ko is different.

Final ko 1: demon rush that shows lines of intents and has a slow motion video of every punch that is thrown. He holds back on the final blow. You are not worthy of death by my hands. Grabs enemy and headbutts them, hard and slow, 12 times. X-ray shows facial bones cracking on every third hit…drops enemy body like a wet noodle. …ko.

Final ko 2: Teleport madness. Teleports threw back and forth hitting enemy, they swing randomly after Ryu has passed by them, and hit them with a single attack. After they are exhausted they fall to there knees. Ryu in his evil form teleports in front of them and grabs them by their head. Picks them up with one hand and shakes them violently back and forth, slams head into ground three times…X-ray shows skull cracking. Ko

Final ko 3: massive uppercut: evil grabs enemy in and says, this is the last face you will see in this lifetime. Your time line ends here. Pushes them back and demon rushes into three uppercutts, on the ground, three shifting uppercuts to the chin, pops enemy up…huge pause evil gathers dark hado and jumping uppercuts the airborne enemy. Hitting them in the gut…multi hits all the way up their body to the chin. Sending their body even higher. Evil falls to the ground and waits for falling enemy looking at the ground. Enemy body comes on the screen falling straight at Ryu. He hold his arm up and they fall on his upward fist…X-ray shows back cracking. Ko

NORMAL RYU:

Storyline:

Bio:

Changes:

New throw: jumping scissor take down, roll away, stand up.

1. Over shoulder hard throw: same

2. Grab enemy roll back throw: same

3. Slide side kick from third strike. Same kick as street fighter x Tekken. Faster than third strike. Ex kick causes wall bounce.

4. Fake fireball: same as the hd remix version…can uppercutt right after.

5. Ability to change into evil Ryu… Can change at anytime the ultra bar is filled…you sacrifice your super bar for the remainder of the rounds in the match…you stay evil Ryu till the end of the match…can’t change back. During the change animation time pauses…and Ryu can be punished during change. Ryu bends over in pain… Then rears back and explodes into evil Ryu.

Ryu once turned to evil form…he still has an ultra bar that fills. This is such a great give and take, free up a space on the character select screen. Still have a way to play evil Ryu…everyone wins.

4. Fireball is the same speed as before. Ex hits twice.

5. Uppercut: same as before. Ssf4 ae2012. Hit box needed on characters that slide low. That way he can’t uppercut them off the ground when they are laying down. Ex the same

6. Hurricane kick: same as before. Ex same as before causes juggle

Blue Super 1: same as before. Throws a fireball that hits 5 times.

Red super 2: hurricane kick…like alpha Ryu stands in place spin kicking. Hitting enemy 10 times. Last hit is a knock away.

Ultra 1: same as before no change. Huge fireball. Fadc all day into a huge multi hitting fireball.

Ultra 2: huge uppercut, changed to look like his sf3 super. Can also be used after a Fadc, with damage scale.

Ultra 3: close… Power dunk, jumping knee into a powerful down punch. Pops enemy body up for Ryu to do an ultra hurricane kick. Spins and causes a huge tornado that hits and spins enemy around getting kicked. Knocks away. Can go threw projectiles. Can be fadc into, however damage scale is high. Also when ultra is started he goes threw all the animation. So can still chip people out.

Random ko: Ryu gets knocked out falls backwards hit ground…and starts having evil hado chi exploding from his body, like fireworks of flames and chi released for his body. Flops all over the ground…screams help me!!! Then passes out. Same for Evil RYU.

Reverse ko:

RYU: picks up enemy by the arm and carries them off stage, says dont worry I will help you recover. You fought a great fight, I have learned from our battle. Limps enemy off stage.

Evil Ryu: just stands laughing at enemy. Lifts up there arm and walks with them laughing.

Team ko: Ryu and Ken together. Both do standing combos kicking and punching enemy back and forth, both get together and do a uppercut on both sides of enemy, sending there body flying into the air. They both jump back and build a super fire ball, the both release the fireballs into the falling enemy body. Cause the enemy to bounce all over getting hit by both fireballs. Ko…Ryu and Ken stand back to back. Same for evil RYU.

Final ko 1: tumbling kicks and punches, cut scenes to show slow mo on all the hits and impact is in slow mo. Jumps back screams…then unleashes a fireball stream into enemy. The fireball fries them up…enemy falls over steaming from the blast they just took. Coughs up blood and smoke, passes out. Ryu falls over from exhaustion …has a look of bewilderment on his face. Says what was that?

Final ko 2: turns into evil Ryu and screams… Rushes over to enemy and punches their lights out in a really fast combo, kicks enemy down to the ground. Stands over enemy with back to screen. Holds his arms out to the side and screams …ahahahahahahaaaaaaahhh. Turns just his head to look at the screen. Then starts slamming both hands down on grounded enemy, hitting, scratching, enemy. Blood is flying all over. Stands up and stomps enemy head once…crack sound, x-ray shows skull crack…ko. Ryu powers down and falls to his knees walking away from enemy…soaked in blood he looks at his hands and screams…noooooooooo what have I done?

Final ko 3: close grab by shirt, three head butts in a row, smashing enemy face, x-ray on every hit. Enemy body dazed and confused, Ryu does the forbidden uppercut and slams enemy body downward after they fly to the ground he releases a huge barrage of hail storm fireballs on the grounded enemy. He lands next to enemy and holds arm up in air. Says whooa what power.

Intros:

1. Same as sf4: the answer lies in the heart of battle. RYU standing with eyes closed, looks at enemy and gets into fighting position.

2. Walks onto screen, drops bag. My journey starts here. Gets into fighting stance.

3. RYU sitting down, eyes closed, meditating. Opens eyes quick with a surprised look on face. I hope my training pays off, fighting stance.

4. I have waited my whole life for this fight. Lets go! Stomps foot holds hands out and bows. Fighting stance.

Winning animations:

1. Punch screen same as sf4: arms folded, eyes closed then punches at camera.

2. Jumping around, stands still then focus attacks the camera.

3. Does a kick and punch kata, eyes closed, opens them and uppercuts towards camera says shoryuken !!! Camera moves up and pause as he is punching into the air.

4. RYU is shaking and screaming. Arms out, he rears back. Power shooting out of his body. He is trying to hold back the dark Hadou. [/details]

john cena underage pre-puberty fan’s

[d3v]

Anytime I see someone say that Blanka shouldn’t be buffed because low levels players can’t deal with him online, I want to shoot somebody.

People ultimately want two things: their preferred character to be a swiss army knife for every single situation possible – while in the same breath claim their preferred character takes a higher grade of player to utilize. We all want shit to be fair like Karate Champ, but we also want to come off as bad ass underdogs like we’re video game Rocky’s. Human beings are just fucking weird.

My Makoto tech knowledge is so early 2012, that I wouldn’t know what to ask for in the current environment and if pushed for a change suggestion, would recommend something par for the dumb stuff. The largest barrier I have with her was movement options (which she has more than you’d think if you’re willing to get creative)…but that barrier is a good thing to have and is a big part of her design (creep around like a turd rolling up hill and then suddenly go 100mph when things are right). So I guess I want nothing changed. Sounds good to me!

In Capcom-Unity’s defense, being an official entity they can’t just shit on bad but relevant threads or allow people to “real-talk” others…because it becomes Capcom shitting on their customer’s threads and allowing other customers to hurt other customer’s feelings. That’s a bad look. I, on the other hand, have no problem shitting on bad threads…and SRK users as a whole enjoy calling out someone’s bullshit when they are talking out of their ass.

We were actually allowed to have a bit more “real talk” as long as we stated that it was our opinion, no Capcom’s, back when it was still one of the older community managers alongside Seth. But that’s changed recently and we have to be friendlier now.

[_Insert_Name_Here]

Teh Guile and Blanks should also get tired. Like when they are doing more than 5 sonic booms or electricity they walk slower and make less intimidating and growling noices. I cannot defeat them online they do the same things so if you do the same thing the game should punich you.

This was… a joke, right? I can’t tell on the Internet sometimes…

[King9999]

Some of this stuff actually isn’t so crazy. It may be unbalanced in its current form, but if tweaked it could work. I think it’s just that it’s clumped up in the middle of so much other nonsense that it seems nuts.

As for Dan I’d be awesome if his legendary taunt was invincible.

I suggested that Dan’s taunts should have armor.

[diamonddust131]

Ken flowchart v2013 we da bes

http://i50.tinypic.com/vgtu1k.jpg

boy, i bet eddie is a real john cena fans…pity him.
i’m not surprise this guy would go riot if capcom might remove ken’s kara throw…
a throw that Dastagy spammed but drive him to retirement.

good one 4neqs…you really cheer me up. TQ.

Because popularity and canon should decide tier lists. Wait, no.

[Eternal]

Green hand should knockdown, or give Gief an advantage on hit.

AIR THROW!!! I mean C’MON! He’s a pro wrestler and he doesn’t have a air throw!!! Even Vega (claw) has one…REALLY?!

I find that while ALL of the characters have their move list intact from previous SF2 titles, Zangief is missing a consideral many from his SF2 arsenal.

Bring back the PPP Lariat from SF4 vanilla. When Gief gets in clise it should be OVER, his original helped that happen. He NEEDS this move.

One more thing, is it possible to have a EX Lariat.

Air Throw on Zangief? .. Russian Skies always protected? ..

If Chun Li is to be “The Strongest Woman in the World” Make that statement true no other female in the game should have higher health than her.

I… I have no comment on this one. I’m just dumbfounded.

In fact, Kikoken’s start-up and recovery is comparatively long for a projectile attack, it lacks any sort of combo potential outside of super set-ups, and its range is limited. I would like to see some justification for keeping it a back-forward charge input.

14F (LP) 12F(MP) 10F(HP/EX) is long for a projectile? What does that say about Cody/Rose? lol.

Vega’s claws should do chip/block damage, much like Cody’s Knife does! Vega claw weapon has 3 sharp knives; opponents who block it should still be dealt at least little bit of damage each time it connects. This would not be huge buff since his damn claws come flying off randomly all the time anyways. I mean really, Cody’s knife does block damage in the game, so it only makes logical sense that Vegas should too.

Because… Cody’s knife is so damn good…

[_Insert_Name_Here]

Ken flowchart v2013 we da bes

http://i50.tinypic.com/vgtu1k.jpg

boy, i bet eddie is a real john cena fans…pity him.
i’m not surprise this guy would go riot if capcom might remove ken’s kara throw…
a throw that Dastagy spammed but drive him to retirement.

good one 4neqs…you really cheer me up. TQ.

Because popularity and canon should decide tier lists. Wait, no.

Guys Oni should be top tier because he’s a powered up form of Akuma and Akuma was already canon strongest character!!!

Oni’s Demon should one-hit kill.

[Eternal]

Ken flowchart v2013 we da bes

http://i50.tinypic.com/vgtu1k.jpg

boy, i bet eddie is a real john cena fans…pity him.
i’m not surprise this guy would go riot if capcom might remove ken’s kara throw…
a throw that Dastagy spammed but drive him to retirement.

good one 4neqs…you really cheer me up. TQ.

Because popularity and canon should decide tier lists. Wait, no.

Guys Oni should be top tier because he’s a powered up form of Akuma and Akuma was already canon strongest character!!!

Oni’s Demon should one-hit kill.

Why bother, didn’t you hear he is banned?

[pietastic]

Teh Guile and Blanks should also get tired. Like when they are doing more than 5 sonic booms or electricity they walk slower and make less intimidating and growling noices. I cannot defeat them online they do the same things so if you do the same thing the game should punich you.

This was… a joke, right? I can’t tell on the Internet sometimes…

Mission complete!

[Great_Dark_Hero]

I just knew this would be THE holy ground for finding all sorts of crazy ideas made by the fan-boys of Capcom Unity. If guys like these are into that sort of action, they may as well go ahead and play something along the lines of mugen or something. An endless sea of bad ideas (i.e. suggesting nerfs on characters that are not even good enough to be competitive, using “canon” to determine character balance, etc).

[Superstar]

Thanks, we fascists do what we can! In Capcom-Unity’s defense, being an official entity they can’t just shit on bad but relevant threads or allow people to “real-talk” others…because it becomes Capcom shitting on their customer’s threads and allowing other customers to hurt other customer’s feelings. That’s a bad look. I, on the other hand, have no problem shitting on bad threads…and SRK users as a whole enjoy calling out someone’s bullshit when they are talking out of their ass. It’s a system that seems to work!

Good system when it works, the problem is how much leniency is given towards being an ass about it is allowed. I’ve been just as guilty as anybody else, and why many people leave; to not be part of the drama.

As a quick aside: Capcom-Unity serves a really good purpose and does a good job catering to its audience compared to what they started with. It’s an outreach to the fans/community that was pretty much non-existent pre-SethK – just like how SRK caters to its own brand/style of player. I’m just not into the undertone of this thread being SRK dogging an entire community. I am, however, into discussing and battering bad suggestions.

If done with a light tone, I’m all for battering bad ideas, something that is harder to gauge when you call out an entire community or specific posters.

Having said that, I do find some of the stuff hilarious. one in particular:

Teh Guile and Blanks should also get tired. Like when they are doing more than 5 sonic booms or electricity they walk slower and make less intimidating and growling noices. I cannot defeat them online they do the same things so if you do the same thing the game should punich you.

…and if you down back too much, you’re character should get sleepy and lay down ending the round.

[ThatJollyOlBastid]

That one guy asking for ex lariat killed me

[mr.tibbs]

The Chun thread. -__-

Get rid of the hurtbox in between her legs with the ex sbk. It costs meter, and it should change the metagame into a guess, and not a mauling. Being divekicked over and over by Rufus, because he wants you to use your meter, and condition you into not doing anything, is not fun by any stretch.

Trans: “Buff ex bird b/c I have no creativity with wake-up options and haven’t figured out how to block dive kicks.”

In summary: - More like 3rd Strike.

…

-Increase Ultra 2 damage, especially since most everyone combos into it from cr.lk to EX kicks.

Here’s one thing that I agree with. It certainly shouldn’t get too much more damage, but it’d be nice if it were more than just an aesthetic spectacle. (This was posted by… d3v. Of course.)

[xEGAxBeastkingx]

From Balrog Thread

Ultra 2 has either increased range OR is instant after ultra flash, reduced damage, and changed to a charge motion

xD What? That would make it even more useless.

headbutt into ultra 1 needs to be nerfed.It is very easy to land and too damaging.

If anything this needs to be buffed. It doesn’t do much damage if you combo into it.

nerf grab! I don’t understand how a boxer should be that good at that! (Copy pasted from Dudley)

um…

-cr lp: change frame advantage on block from -4 to -5 or -6 frames:

makes his tick throw game less broken, especially for online play.

Salty that he can’t beat Rog players online

Anyways, for Boxer, the ONE and only major thing you need to give him is a limited range FIREBALL-PUNCH (ie, juri limit). That would allow him some offensive pressure. Don’t worry - it would not make him over powered - the negatives on using it are just like with any other projectile so it gives him a tool but also produces vulnerability.

This is one of the most ridiculous things I’ve heard for this game.

[Paolochun]

The EX bird stuff is reasonable imo, and most Chun players requested it. It shouldn’t be placed with the other laughable claims imo.

At least a few more invul frames or when you safe jump at least a little chip damage if someone lands in the middle. She should not be so free to dk/wakeup pressure. Heck, even upkicks (dp+k) instead of a b+mk, mk, u+k target combo is reasonable.

She can simply block on wakeup of course, or focus backdash/backdash wakeup out of the way, but as it is she’s really limited. There’s no reason something that costs meter and pretty much her only nonblock/bd option is that weak. Most EX SRK’s are unsafe-jump-able after all.

The Chun thread. -__-

Get rid of the hurtbox in between her legs with the ex sbk. It costs meter, and it should change the metagame into a guess, and not a mauling. Being divekicked over and over by Rufus, because he wants you to use your meter, and condition you into not doing anything, is not fun by any stretch.

Trans: “Buff ex bird b/c I have no creativity with wake-up options and haven’t figured out how to block dive kicks.”

[bluASTERiSK]

Yeah EX SBK needs to be better if it’s her best bet as a reversal or anti air, it should at least WORK if she’s gonna use meter. A lot of her anti airs are only good in a specific way, several other characters have great reversals that can’t be beat out by safejumps. I think its only fair.