It’s a match up I play every week against one of the best Chuns in the US. I’ve studied that match up inside out and I can’t see it being 7-3. Chun has a spot on the screen she can win at which IMO is not 7-3 material. 7-3 or worse is when one character doesn’t have any winnable situations and has to basically play super risky to get anything done.
System changes thread is open folks. Lets see how this goes…
I thought that’s 8-2 or worse? 6-4 is what a slight but substantial disadvantage? Then wouldn’t 7-3 be a moderate disadvantage, 8-2 a large disadvantage, 9-1 an almost unwinnable match up, and 10-0 unwinnable?
Not that this is a scrub post, but EH just posted about the Japanese players and their take on the patch.
http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2013/apr/19/super-street-fighter-4-balance-adjustment-opinions-japan/
So even Japan acknowledges Akuma is kinda bullshit, lol. Though they have it right in my opinion; let him keep his amazing offensive capabilities, but just trim his defensive capabilities back a bit.
Interesting that Yang is one of the most voted characters and that they want to up his stamina to 950 and also up his offensive capabilities. Makes sense actually since he’s the only 900 health character that does so little damage and also has to contend with low vitality.
My updated list, after the 4th week, finished on 20:41 GMT 19.04.2013
[details=Spoiler]Balancing terms:
Braindead: 135
Broken: 611
Buff: 2484
Cheap: 158
Easy: 892
Hard: 1784
Nerf: 3155
OP: 301
Overpowered: 408
Tone down: 186
Weak: 706
Character names:
Adon: 611
Akuma: 2589
Cody: 575
Dan: 381
Guile: 895
Hakan: 365
Honda: 687
Ken: 814
Ryu: 2181
Seth: 906
Zangief: 736
Viper: 501
FGC player names:
Daigo: 137
Dieminion: 56
Fuudo: 11
Infiltration: 231
Justin Wong: 22
Mago: 19
Mike Ross: 10
Ricky Ortiz: 5
Sako: 18
Tokido: 111
FGC terms:
Bottom Tier: 109
High Tier: 288
Mid Tier: 238
Not safe on block: 799
Safe: 1618
Safe on block: 993
Salty: 33
Since Vanilla: 323
Since Street Fighter 2: 132
Too Safe: 764
Top Tier: 581
Vortex: 683
Zoning: 615
Move names:
Air Fireball: 878
Demon Flip: 305
Dive Kick: 725
DP: 1043
Fireball: 1890
Focus Attack: 740
Headbutt: 300
Sonic Boom: 207
Shoryuken: 575
SPD: 336
Sweep: 1004
Tatsu:860
Special mentions:
Don´t respect: 146
Don´t respect his zoning: 28
Eternal: 35
Hate: 240
LoyalSol: 31
Nick: 48
Noob: 45
Remove from game: 466
Respect: 280
Scrub: 191
Seth flies: 36
Tatsu into Sweep: 155
Troll: 194
Volcanic: 29
Walkspeed: 289[/details]
It’s really semantics.
I think it’s going to be mostly “Please remove unblockables”
well thank u. although i gave up on Aksel (99% sure he’s trolling). i can only take stupidity and stubbornness for so long…and yeah i was laughing hard at the flame war. i guess everyone thought…last day…fuck it
can i ask who are you playing with? do you have footage of those matches? im not trolling or anything im really curious about those 2 thing i left bolded.
Everyone is asking for new characters, stages, colour editor, and other useless bull crap.
This update is most likely going to be like 2013, free and as bare-bones as possible so they should be asking for functional changes like updated netcode and fixing unblockables. The only change they should make that isn’t gameplay or online oriented I think is bringing back the old SF4 announcer, the Super guy is much less fun.
New characters = paid update = bad
Seriously, I’m willing to bet a lot of people won’t pay a dime for SF4 anymore, dividing the community isn’t a good idea at all.
I have a feeling they might add characters as exclusive paid DLC add-ons, specially Rolento with Ono’s tweet about it it’s almost guaranteed! IMO that’s absolutely bullshit for a fighting game where you want to take the characters you’re having difficulties with in training mode and come up with strategies for them. I don’t care if Marvel or any other game does it, It’s WRONG!
Also, why the hell balance a game and introduce new characters that nobody knows how they’ll affect the matchups? Such a bad idea and I can’t believe people want to learn more than 39 matchups.
These people aren’t thinking about learning matchups, you should know that.
I think the new characters will be DLC add-ons. Remember Capcom had that character popularity poll very recently, the results posted less than a month ago. It is unlikely a coincidence. I think the odds of new characters are very high (and you got the easy ones to put in like the ones in SFxTekken).
The main problem I see with new character is that it isn´t guaranteed, how strong or weak a character will be. Character X could be either too weak or too broken or some aspects aren´t well balanced of the character, which means that another tweaks will be needed for the mentioned character.
we dont need more matchups to learn. ppl already refuse to learn the ones that exist. plus 40+ chars is a bit much
There is a part of me that wants new characters but the actual smart player side of me knows new characters at this point likely wouldn’t pan out well.
I honestly wouldn’t mind paying for some aesthetic stuf like costumes or stages though. Mainly I just want the bandage shirt alt for Makoto. It’s absolutely perfect.
If there are added characters I doubt it will be a ton. I think deep down we are all fascinated by new characters, especially if they are very different from all existing characters. The only concern is balance, and more work obviously since you have more match ups to learn.
I approve bandage shirt for Makoto.
I’m dyin’ guys. I can’t take these threads.