Scotland Leaving the UK, Anyone?

On the streets of Glasgow - https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10153165231862586 :lol:

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DON’T WORRY TOO MUCH ABOUT IT.

At least your older population isn’t bleeding your country dry with their 25+ year free ride vacation paid by the American Tax Payer, and having tax payers pay for their sedentry life style which has is amounting to a clusterfuck that will make the 2008 depression, and possibly the 1930 depression a good place to be.

I was born and raised there. The problems that Puerto Rico has do not get fixed by independence nor do they get fixed by it becoming a state. Puerto Ricans problem has, and will always be, fucking Puerto Ricans. We have a bunch of people wheeling and dealing when they get to government on top of people under reporting taxes which is additionally exacerbated by a terrible drug policy that does more to hurt the island than help. We have motherfuckers in our senate that are in favor of statehood but don’t know how to speak english. How the hell is anybody supposed to take that shit seriously?

So explain to me, how will independence deal with the current bond situation in PR? You know, the one that made several of our sports stars go from well off to broke? The same bond situation that will make people think Greece is balling by comparison? Oh that’s right, it won’t. Because at the moment, the island can get by using USA’s reputation to skimp along.

There is no slave mentality. Independence is great for countries with the natural resources to establish themselves. All that it would do for the country is make it harder to import/export things. The situation when Betances was alive was significantly different than the reality we have now. Before the island makes a choice, it needs to chore up a million and a half things that are wrong with it. It would be wise for the country to fix those while well educated american experts can still easily enter/leave the island.

But give me freedom, give me freedom, give me some damn freedom. I am far freer in the states than any of my family back home? You know why? Because I don’t have to worry about the bullshit crime rate in that bat shit crazy island. Lets give freedom that threw a major protest so they could use ATVs on the roads and then later threw an even bigger one in favor of making marriage one man and one woman. Is that the freedom half of that knuckle dragging island deserves? Apparently it is. You bat shit crazy indepentistas think that when the island is “free” you’re shitty party will take over. You care more about some bullshit claim to freedom without realizing that, if free, our island will get bukkaked by every major financial institution in the fucking planet.

You want some freedom? Look at Jamaica. IMF has had them by the balls so fucking hard they can barely export onions. What would happen when the hammer falls and people start cashing in the bonds? Oh yeah, we’re gonna be sucking dick and getting fucked between the Fed and international investors. See you don’t want real freedom. If Puerto Rico goes independent, you’ll be the first motherfucker screaming that we keep the dollar. Pull the trigger though, grow some balls and say Puerto Rico needs its own currency. Let me know what life is like when a gallon of milk is 10 Puerto Rican doodoodollars. With the amount of debt we have, terrible industrial sector and lack of exploitable natural resources like oil or gold, we’re gonna have to the land until it is its own country in name only. I heartily welcome the name change to De Leon avenue to McDonald’s avenue.

You don’t know the cost of freedom. You are just another piece of shit leftists who thinks that screaming Libertad! is the rallying call of the revolution. You don’t care about true liberty anymore than any other fucking idiot that thinks punk rock is just about a pair of skinny jeans and a mohawk. At the end of the day, you don’t love our culture, you don’t love your people, you don’t love your island. You don’t really want whats best of it. You’re just another idiot that thinks independence is a panacea for the country’s ailments. Go listen to Fiel a La Vega and jerk off to your poster of Ruben Berrios, that’s all your brain is good for.

And please, stop embarassing Puerto Ricans. Some of us actually know how to maneuver the English language. That atrocity that you put on the page just shows the world how unqualified you for any type of diplomatic endevour.

I’m a dick and wanted to point out the irony of this. Carry on.

So I accidentally skip a word and it suddenly means I don’t know English? Let me get it google translated for you:

Cesser d’être un mec muet

Live stream if anybody wants to watch bigoted sectarian idiots fuck shit up

The end of being a mute guy?

Sectarian riots and people fighting over grammar…the No voters have set things back 10 years in under 24 hours…

No idea, I don’t speak frog.

The fuck were you trying to say?

“Stop acting like a dumb nigga” I don’t know. Google isn’t known for its strong french.

What the fuck has this turned into

The US has the best health care in the world bar none, and as far as secondary education is concerned again, the best bar none.

Also, the gall of wanting to strip the older generations of their voting rights really says alot to the sense of entitlement and history of the current internetforum Dunning-Kruger effected generation.

No true Scotsman would disagree.
hahaa

Can we please keep the topic centered on how fucking abysmal my country is

Fixed that for you.

Scotland has a state healthcare system, subsidized medication, additional free care for lifelong illness…and a free education system from elementary, right through college and university with international acclaim.

And riots, apparently, as far as the eye can see. Guess its a tradeoff haha.

Wait until the price of a Latte goes up by £2.00 in Starbucks. The south will be up in arms, rioting throughout Wesminster, then, we might see change.

Until then, though. Hold that L Scotland and lets stay fucking miserable.

We could but I’m not in a position to tell Scotland what is best for its people. I think it’d be a bit nicer for the outsider if you guys talked about why you want an indepdent Scotland. Which are the benefits that you see being so damn good that they outweigh the cons. Similarly if you want to keep the United Kingdom, what is it that the Union is giving you that you think Scotland won’t have as independent?

I still haven’t heard any argument showing that Scotland needs independence to accomplish any of its goals. Some of its goals would be easier with independence, and others would be harder.

I’m not trying to talk shit about crucades because he’s just trying to show some passion, but that kind of personal, emotional argument should always be considered “doomed to fail” straight from the gates.

I can safely say that the North is severely under-represented by parliament on both sides of the border. For anyone living in a city in the North of the UK, a large chunk of your tax money is spent in an area where you don’t live, by people you didn’t vote for, on things that contradict your own needs and ideologies.
I live in a working class town, where my ballot paper is gives me a choice of 2 conservative governments to choose from. Both, of which, have strong interests in disassembling my national health system and my workers union, also increasing cost of the lower tax brackets that I earn in and spending as much money as possible in European favors and foreign commerce that threatens my own trade.
This isn’t just Scotland. The UK is a nation that now funds London and nothing else and the independence vote was the only chance for most non-Londoners to be heard, since Scotland is one of the few places to be shat on that had the muscle to push back. Instead, they were psychologically bullied into patting an uninvited, English coalition on the back in a matter that was supposed to be in the interest of Scotland, not the UK.
It would have fucked us up over here but, frankly, it would have been welcomed, since it would highlight to the rest of the world that most of us over here aren’t doing so great and the people that are supposed to protect us are tearing our institutions apart and leaving us to rot.
Even the things that the No voters were voting to save, such as pensions and the NHS are now back in the hands of the very people trying to dissolve them, but they’re too busy flag waving and sobbing over the pound to see that they’re putting themselves into checkmate.

There is no goal other than the right to self determine and correct an ancient wrong, to move our people away from the policies made by people who dont give a fuck about us and to educate the mindless zombies that live amongst us.

Its all fucked now though so it doesnt matter.