Sakura Strategy and Match-up Thread (2.0)

^This. I second Cammy and have a crossup divekick setup that works on Sakura among others from b.throw. Given there are numerous ways to setup crossup divekicks, you don’t see it quite enough imo since I guess it’s little harder than just doing crossup lk. Several Cammy players don’t rely on execution very much, which is sad since she shines even more for that alongside her strong mixups.

Anyone know how to punish Honda’s headbutts midscreen? reversal hp sho only hits once (sometimes) and honda can block the rest IIRC. I also tried just :hp: sho fadc (after one hit) to st :hp: but sometimes :hp: is out of range and sakura does far :hp:. Open to suggestions

Iirc this is a weird hitbox thing that causes inconsistency. I have no idea.

Is it actually punishable? I don’t bother… God I hate fighting Honda

:lame:

The medium/heavy versions are -13/-16, you just have to reach the guy.

It’s weird and hard and i haven’t figure out why it misses sometimes. What i do though is crouch and then stand block at the last second before the heabutt hits and then reversal shou. Normally works for me.

Oh and i don’t bother punishing strong headbutt. Way too inconsistent.

Out of my testing experiences… You can’t be blocking during the headbutt is inputted. You have to stand block as the headbutt is coming at you then it should punish. I still don’t even bother trying to punish it. Since your normally moving around its hard to tell if you were holding back as he headbutted or not.

Damn it, I wanted to put the FEAR into honda but I guess back to the lab I go after finals

If you’re too far after the fadc for Cl.fp, you could try cr.lp or St.LP to cr.fp/cr.mk. I just let them have the chip and try and zone and AA well. I pretty much commit to the idea that I’m playing Chun-Li wearing a Sakura costume until I get a knockdown in which case I’ll pressure, but not with lk tatsu unless it’s after a fp because they consistently ex Headbutt through tatsu “pressure” (I.e. Cl.mk xx tatsu, Cl.lk tatsu etc.)

Does anyone know all the characters who have unblockables and 50/50s on Sakura? I’m looking at you guys Skatan, deebs and funkie lol I’d appreaciate it.

I couldn’t tell you… I know for sure E. Ryu has an unblockable, i think ibuki has one but i believe it’s difficult to be consistent with. My friend plays ibuki and does this ambiguous setup on me and always says “sometimes it’s unblockable” when i get hit by it and whine.

I believe both Dan and Gouken do, Ibuki definitely does.

In the corner, pretty much every shoto has a 50/50, right? I know this one with Ryu. F.throw St.RH j.RH(fake)/j.mk/lk crossup. It’s like Sakura setups where he’ll land behind you regardless of which he does.

mostly yeah, the lk one hits behind/lands in front

Viper unblockable: throw, step forward, jHK
Cody unblockable: throw, step forward, jLK
Gen unblockables: crane throw, roll, jHK or backthrow, EX dive (only when crouching)
Ibuki unblockable: neckbreaker, step forward, back+MP, jLK or MK

Those are the ones I had written down, but I haven’t gotten around to working on escape options or block methods yet. Would some of y’all like to try escaping or blocking those?

E. ryu is forward throw, sweep or cr. hp, j. Mk. It’s superrrrrr easy to block. Like, it’s way harder to do the unblockable than to block it. Just block it as a crossup kinda late. It seems like as long as you’re not blocking on the first wakeup frame or something you’re good.

Cody has one after a Midscreen Throw I believe.

Damn, nice guy’s, keep them coming. I know Viper has a unblockable on saku w/ forward throw -> 1 step forward -> super j. f. hk. wolfkrone told me if its timed right it is instead of it being a 50/50 like on most char’s. And That gen EX dive you have to ex sho out of. But I’ve heard you can block non-corner ‘unblockables’ (all character-specific) by either holding down-forward into a forward block right as the moves about to hit(watch ryu apprentice’s unblockable video) or by doing something similar with hitting back and then forward(latif method). *And some you can backdash out of, down-block, crouch under, *these methods i believe dont work on 50/50’s and you must judge visually where theyre trying to hit you within the set-up. Thats why we need to know EVERY unblockable set-up to know how to react. I’ll keep everyone posted on what I find.

2:15 Is that really an unblockable?

It is if you use mk instead of hp… Maybe hp can work too? Maybe he did hp in case humanbmb knew how to block the unblockable (you have to block it as a crossup, so if he was doing that and chris got the hp to connect it would have hit as a non crossup). Idk for sure though.

P.S. why do you always kick me when i find you on ranked lol