Aren’t the midscreen ex tatsu dash sweep setups -actually- ex tatsu, dash, walk slightest amount, sweep? I was gonna go into training mode and try and figure out midscreen 50/50s & unblockables off that setup since more variation is always nice instead of always seeing lvl.2/3 fireball. Maybe someone could clarify but I thought after trying it several times that it was dash then walk sweep.
I think sweep and throw setups are similar, but not identical, because their waking hurt box is different depending which way their head is facing on knockdown.
They both leave the opponent at around the same range and both rely on opponent’s quick rising…
Well a safe jump would work regardless if you walked forward or not, it’s the same setup after the sweep. 50/50s might require it just so you can crossup, it would also be characters specific since some characters don’t crossup after jumping after a sweep. That’s why I walked back in my setup, so it wouldn’t cross up with any character.
Throw and sweep are hard knockdowns, can’t quick rise brah
I too was picking up Gouken as an alt, I tried him a bit during regular AE but didn’t really have good enough fundamentals to make him work, giving it another shot for charge character matchups
Yeah my gouken is hardly up to par, but I wouldn’t think twice about picking him for guile. It’s sooooo much better. You don’t even need to know much, just play a solid fireball game and push him to the corner and you’re set
I saw ChrisG do this setup against Sagat a few times in these videos. Not sure if it’s an unblockable or not but he never mixed in a j.mk so I think it might be?
Ex Tatsu > Otoshi > 2 hits, do not whiff 3rd > neutral jump > dash > forward jump J.HP.
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Nah already tried it a while ago, it’s a 50 50 that works exactly the same as the back jump setup that’s why I never bothered posting it
Basically any jump whether it’s neutral, forward or back works
So I was practicing some unblockables for 10 mins or so…tried the old setup on viper and fucked up…and this ended up working (this also makes hp thunder whiff, i tried the ex seismo fake but I didnt know how to do it) also i wouldve recorded the hp thunder knuckle missing but I havent found a way to hold my phone and do stuff at the same time lol
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It should be possible to find unblockables midscreen using lv2 focus, cl.mk x lk shunpu, st.lp, c.hk or cl.mk x lk shunpu, c.lp, st.lp, c.hk.
Maybe even lv2 focus, cl.mp, st.lp, c.hk?
It’s so hard to find already been trying alot on that with sweep with no success :\
I got inspired.
I made this video with very basic setups for sakura, hope you guys like it
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A++, fantastic job.
Safer than usual jump:
corner throw, LP, njMP
Safe to dps 4 frames and up, and quite a few 3 framers. Ken’s H dp is the only shoto dp that hits. Akuma/Ryu/E Ryu/Oni can’t reversal dp or super. And of course, you don’t have to throw yourself into the corner.
For all these setups, which version of otoshi do I use? Or does it not matter?
Don’t think it matters but I use HK Otoshi…
it matters greatly
Oh… well I use HK xD
I played another “top” Sakura from my area the other day. That Sakura unblock he waa unaware of lol mirror match unblocks are incredibly silly.