i think jump forward lk in front is solid to keep opponent in corner and trick them.
I think with the filters 1-2 versions of some setups would be fine.
Do you mean to delay initial otoshi motion? I always wait to do otoshi when I see Sakuras Ex tatsu completely finish/wait for her not to be yellow off ex tatsu anymore so otoshi will always come out and I always see Juso do lk otoshi mid-screen and hk otoshi in corner everytime I play him(feels like theres 0 lag and we play 20+ games at a time) Are you saying to delay otoshi more than that for last 3??
Otoshi timing is very specific for unblockables. So yes, he meant to do them the way he did
Can someone tell me which are the last 3 listed by shano above? I only can use ie explorer on xbox and I cant see which are the last three listed.
akuma, viper, vega
The problem lies in either almost/every every character has a different wake-up or this set up is not for unblockables, but really is a 50/50, when I tested the hell out of this set up Id always get a fake cross up with frwrd jump hp/cross up with frwrd jump mk that were entirely safe from everything but goukens parry really. For characters that had a better backdash than others (Cammy,Guy,Hakan w/oil only, E. ryu, Ibuki, Seth, Dan, Rose, makoto, Gen, Blanka and Balrog/boxer) I’d only get a safe jump and could OS cr. hk ONLY off this where I’d usually have to OS mp shou. BUT for EVERY other character with inferior backdashes, I’d get the same 50/50 AND if they would do wake-up Lvl.1 Focus attack back dash, My Jump foward HP would whiff and I’d be able to land behind the opponent and hit them with a character specific loop like close mk-tat-cl. hp-tat-stand lk into ex tat. before they could recover from their lvl.1 focus backdash. I’m almost positive this is a 50/50 set up to also raaaape every character’s backdash/lvl. 1 focus back dash, but the 12 I listed above and not a unblockable. I experienced what you did too Shano, I’d like to hear what you guys think.
That setup (midscreen ex tatsu, dash, sweep, crLK, jHP) is definitely unblockable vs Abel, Fei, and Honda at least. But Honda can duck it and Fei can U2.
Oh nice! Anyone else it may work on? And it definetely exposes every characters level 1 focus backdash, but those 12 I listed.
Just worked on it for a while against Honda. It took me a while to get it consistently, and frankly I would only do it after dp fadc cl. hp xx ex tatsu, because otherwise the spacing is iffy. The way i’m able to do it pretty consistently right now causes sakura to always land behind honda, but once I actually did it such that it was still unblockable, but if blocked as a crossup sakura would land in front, and behind if blocked regularly. Kinda funky…
Worth noting that Honda can ex headbutt out for free (probably regular headbutts too… didn’t test it and no honda would do that unless they were familiar with the setup). If he autocorrects it, you’re good cause it’s a safe jump, but if not then if you’re like me and you only do it after an fadc then you just spent 3 bars and now he’s across the screen lol
I got it to work!
I’ll try and explain it as best as possible since I have NOTHING at all to record it with… not even a camera on my phone…
Basically you throw and literally just tap back not much AT ALL, barely moves, whiff stLP straight away, hold up forward whilst doing so and j.HK.
It safe jumps her DP, super, ultra etc, she can backdash it but as Skatan said OS lpDP should stop that!
Awesome unblockable!
I’m transferring stuff from streetcleaner’s list right now
Lol i’m looking at the doc right now and see new things appearing
The internet is magic
Hehe, pretty awesome man!
I’m gonna play some SF for now but later when I’m on the phone later I will continue updating!
Once its done everyone can view it and if you go to File in the top left you can download it
EDIT: Great… some asshole has deleted some of it… no point in carrying it on if people are gonna delete it.
I discovered a safe jump that works after a Midscreen Ex tatsu, dash, sweep. It even stuffs Blanka’s electricity! I’m testing it on every character so ill have the full list out tonight.
EDIT: my brain hurts I realized that making 2 variations of the setup allows it to work on more characters. I have to re-do the entire cast.
Any safe jump for higher than 3 frames will safe jump blanka…
Electricity is only 5 frames… EX air ball is 4 frame start up… he doesn’t have any other wake up options except that one that makes him invincible but that doesn’t hit anyway unless he comes flying back and then you can focus attack it…
Mmm you can’t focus reversals.
Oh… then block it?
Ahhhh… no wonder it breaks armor half the time and most of the time it doesn’t… thanks xD
Yeah sometimes I forget, because it doesn’t really feel like a reversal by the time he comes back down