Sagat thread

There’s absolutely no way this can be true.

Also N.Sagat’s upper does more damage, I’ve taken out like 40% of someone’s vitality with it before. Sometimes it just does MONSTER damage that I’ve never seen with O.gat.

You can test it by yourself: it is extremely simple. Three attacks should dizzy, if you are fast enough. Of course, O.Gat recovers much faster so he has a much better time throwing 3 projectiles before the timer runs out.
Also N.Sagat’s upper does more damage, I’ve taken out like 40% of someone’s vitality with it before. Sometimes it just does MONSTER damage that I’ve never seen with O.gat.
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The life bar does not deplete linearly with damage.

The damage seems correct. All five attacks (16+11+4+4+4) sum for more than 36. Also, those are either average or most common values.

Still not convinced about the dizzy values. I never get the random dizzy with a single tiger that I get with O.gat, and I play n.gat more often. Though it makes sense that’s it’s easier to dizzy with faster tigers.

Any reliable ToD for O.Sagat on a crouching opponent ?
On standing i can get an easy one from st.mk on everyone up to Gief but i cant find anything that does enough on crouching.
Excluding characters that eat both hits of st.mk while crouching.
Closest i’ve gotten on crouching is from c.mp c.mk TS. but the TS seems to miss depending on how far away the combo starts

O.Sagat has the zoning of death.

TIGER TIGER TIGER…TIGER UPPERCUT!

i think n.sagat can cross up with j.mk. i always wanted to try x up j.mk cr.mp cr.mk tiger knee.

Just done it. It works! It does not if you use a Tiger, though: at least not on Ryu.

He can cross-up with j.mk. We have a local player who uses N.sagat, and he loves going for ambiguous cross-ups like this. It’s the main reason he prefers N.Sagat over O.Sagat.

o sagat jumping short can cross up too… and st shorts can easily hit confirm into tiger knee knockdowns, rinse and repeat… super cheap. vs sim you can also do a st short tiger knee lockdown but i forget the exact sequence and timing. just involves doing st shorts into short knees. obv finish a combo and get knockdown if they dont block the shorts. not sure if this helps anyone but just throwing random stuff i remember out there. more to come if the cobwebs clear up!

really, j.lk can cross up? thats news to me. not alot of o.sagat players really care about cross ups lol.

That’s a good hit confirm combo on shotos, since they have to be standing for you to land a knee or st.hp, and whiffing a fierce up close isn’t smart lol.

It’s better with far standing strong. Standing strong is the coolest shit against sim, he can’t crouch it, so it puts on a lot of pressure at the right range. St.lk is easier to use since it has more range though.

Gat’s (works for both versions) j.lk requires some pixel tight spacing to crossup with, though it’s semi-reliable on Dictator, at least from my experience. I wouldn’t bother with it unless you’re pretty corner pinned and you need some way out that takes your opponent off guard. That’s the only time I’ve ever used it on anyone but Dic.

N.Sagat combo for the real ass G’s who know what’s good: j.mk cr.mp st.hp xx tiger knee, dizzy, repeat

If only you had the badass manliness to perform such a sexy combo.

more combos:

(n.gat) j.mk cr.lp st.hp xx tiger uppercut (for the fat fucks)
(n.gat) j.hk st.hp xx tiger knee (this bad boy dizzies a lot)
(los dos) j.hk close st.hk xx tiger knee (3 roundhouses in one combo, why can’t you be this awesome?)
(o.gat) cr.mk st.mk/st.mp xx tiger knee (for big nigs)

o.sagat can combo off his st.mk up close. both sagats can cross up with j.lk but maybe its character (opponent) and spacing specific i’m not sure…

i like doing j.hp st.hk tiger knee (hk version) when they’re dizzy with him (n.sagat).
and meaty cr.mk cr.mk tiger knee.

cl.hp to high tiger usually stuns them when u punish (shotos whiffing dp’s and etc…).

I saw some gats droping yer combos …here some 3 hitters timing

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Soto, that is the weirdest joystick grip I’ve seen.

I’ve never seen a grip where the thumb is not used. You must have some weird and mean-ass looking callouses on your fingers.

I’m going to change my grip to the Spidey web grip.

True pros only use 2 fingers to hold the stick, like a cigarette.

hahaha true my grip is not listed (wineglass, monkey grip, eagle grip, grip of doom…etc) i call it D Raptor grip

, i try sometime using the daigo one when he posted a vid showing the best way for him to play … but fk it, only grip for me is the raptor.

I guess I use the “Daigo” grip as its called. It feels extremely comfortable, I can execute anything I want without having to change hand positions (except for juice kicks on P1 side), and involves all fingers and thumbs in manipulating the arcade stick.

I showed my grip to DGV and he seems to like it. For some reason, he seemed impressed/intrigued by the fact that I can execute Ryu’s shit without having to awkwardly contort my hands and fingers.

Also, where the fuck did you manage you find some random raptor claw grip image that seems to be holding a samurai sword sheath?