In order:
5, and no.
You CAN squeeze 6 in off a grounded opponent, but it requires rather precise positioning near the corner, so you can throw a second one out. N.Sagat’s Uppercut works as follows:
So, at the right distance from the corner, you can hit with another TU (trickiest), or get a lone Tiger Genocide hit.
Is it possible to reduce the delay on O. Sagat’s Fierce/RH Tiger Shot, New Sagat’s, or both?
Can I input a short or jab and then input a Tiger Shot whenever I want? Or do I have to do a true kara cancel in 5 frames?
In so many words I agree. All three are pretty strong characters. However IMHO, the skill gap to use O.Sagat if definately smaller that the skill gap to use Sim and Boxer (w/ or w/o their throws).
i use N.sagat cause i like a challenge and i got some tricks with the super which i will not share with yall:lol: TOP SECRET
but you are right using O.Sagat is much better
i guess i just find N.Sagat more fun :cybot:
Hey, I like using O.Cammy from time to time.
Same here. N.Sagat is just more entertaining. Nothing scientific about the choice. He also has the cooler colored shorts.
After playing with remixed sagat I can’t go back to o.sagat tiger knee juggles and crossups are just too nice.
I’m playing New Sagat cause I feel like it and I feel that his Tiger Knee is harder to do all the time than DPs or SPDs IMO. Is the execution window for TK really smaller than most other moves or I just suck at TKing?
I’m playing on arcade version (emulator) with Turbo 2 or 3 (my friend likes 3)
I actually find it easier to perform than a dp. I just roll to uf in one swift motion. If you’re messing it up, it’s easy to diagnose: low tiger = not hitting the upper corner, j.K = not hitting the K right as you reach the corner.
Thanks. That helped me find a way. I am now getting it all the time using a MvC2 trick to get it down. I’ll share is so it may be useful to somebody else. Sagat’s TK is pretty much a low to the ground AHVB with kick. Once I visualized it, I can do it pretty often now.
I’ve been playing N. Sagat recently to get a feel for him. Yeah yeah, I know O. Sagat is unilaterally better, but as others have said before, I’m having quite a bit of fun with N. and I’m sticking with it for now. So, my questions:
-I know O. Sagat’s Uppercut is best if timed as late as possible to catch them during the brief invulnerable startup. Does this also apply to N. Sagat’s uppercut, and is the invulnerable window different among the different ranks of it? I tend to use strong uppercut rather than fierce for AA, so I guess my question specifically is regarding that uppercut.
-So speaking of using Strong Uppercut as AA, if I’m timing it as late as possible, is it actually better to use Fierce uppercut? If all of the hits of Fierce connect, it should deal somewhat more damage, and if it’s that deep, I’d assume it would connect in full. However, my line of thinking so far has been to stick with strong, since if it trades I still get the full damage. Assuming I am able to consistently land the uppercut very late (I’m not there yet), would it be better to use Fierce instead?
-When I get a dizzy, my combo of choice has been standing fierce, fierce uppercut, unless in the corner, in which case I do standing fierce, strong uppercut. I was playing against CigarBob the other day, and I noticed he did standing forward, fierce uppercut in the corner. The fierce uppercut got one more hit in after the forward than it did after the fierce, but I’m fairly certain this still does slightly less damage than standing fierce, strong uppercut. I’m basically just wondering if there’s anything I’m missing here.
Where would you rate N Sagat at? Mid or so?
no point of using N, ever
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Yaya is a top N.Sagat that shows that winning with N.Sagat isn’t exactly impossible. Also, O.Sagat is softbanned enough in Japan that almost no one ever plays as him. Yes if you have a choice between playing O.Sagat and N.Sagat then obviously if you have to win at any cost pick O.Sagat.
But saying that there’s no point is choosing N.Sagat is a bit extreme. O.Hawk is better than N.Hawk overall but there are a handful of players who have done quite well with N.Hawk in Japan.
wow one guy uses him, so what.
O.sag is used alot in japan. Not necessary softbanned like before.
Some people don’t want to play like a bitch, dawg. N Sagat is tight. Don’t use HP uppercut for anti-air.
when should i throw a high or low tiger shot and at what speed
Practice them both and all speeds and it will come to you on when to use them at what times. At the highest level it becomes more random and involves a lil more footsies and some ‘psychic’ thinkings.
streetfighterdojo.com: Super Turbo Sagat
I finally got the ST Sagat section up at streetfighterdojo.com.
Here is the link:
http://streetfighterdojo.com/superturbo/sagat/sagatmatches.html
Match footage of top players + combos/tricks
Enjoy!
never heard of street fighter ae… unless u mean the anniversary collection.