actually, you can’t punish lvl 2 tiger raids… just counter or block and try to tech the throw after
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Yeah you can. Any dp can punish Tiger raid. No matter what level. Even another Sagat Dp can counter it. You can also punish them with a super. Never throw afterwards, because they’ll expect a throw and they might break it.
But if you are the Sagat and you’ve just done blocked tiger raid then you can catch them off gaurd with a light DP. Thats if they dont do it to you first though.
i’ve never seen lvl 2 punished
ill make video later 2nite.
I’ve punished all levels with a simple dp.
snakedrizzle… you might wanna put the CPU on all block before sayign that… it may just help.
It wasnt even in training mode. I was playing an acual game against someone. A player that was pretty good too. Do you even play Sagat? Because you should know that already if you did. Learn a little bit about Sagat before you start saying you know everything. And quit tryin’ to start a flame war by calling me Snake “drizzle”!
:tdown: :lame:
So where’s that vid already?
yeah seriously wheres the video? i don’t think lvl 2 tiger raid is punishable by normal means… uh, maybe zangief can punish it… thats about it i think
Oops, somebody messed up.
Don’t worry, I won’t tell anybody.
Some stuff you can do vs. Cammy:
Cammy’s far s.HK leaves her at -8. Whenever she ends some sort of attack pattern or block string with the move, she’s effectively pushed herself out. Cammy is strongest when she’s up close of course, so there’s nothing more she wants than to get back in again. I’ve noticed a VAST majority use the like to use the qcf+LK move to do just that. Why not? It must be blocked low and it hits quite fast at 8 frame startup. I guarantee that if you let Cammy get away with doing this once, she’s going to keep doing this all day. Don’t let her.
-Low Tiger Shot. (risky) This move is critical to use vs. Cammy. Since it beat the drill, it’s one of Sagat’s move useful pokes. This loses to when Cammy jumps instead of drilling. This will trade (in Cammy’s favor) when Cammy RC’s her drill.
-Walking DP. (risky) Hold f, and when you see the drill animation start, go to d, df+LP/MP. This loses if Cammy RC’d her drill.
-Walk forward, block low. (safest) If Cammy decided to drill right after her far s.HK without thinking, you can block, and then punish for free with a DP or a combo. d.MK/close s.HP xx super both work well. If Cammy decided to jump instead (most likely with a dive kick), make sure you dp+HP with no hesitation. If she decided to walk up roundhouse, fierce her.
-(Mid screen only) Dash back, sweep. Dash back, d.MK xx level 3. The only risk with this counter is that you’ll put yourself into the corner if you do it too much.
-Roll. (risky) You’ll really have to guess on this one, because if you try and roll on reaction to the drill, more often than not, Cammy will have recovered in time to hit you for free. You’ll always end up behind Cammy when you do time the roll correctly. Hit her with d.MK xx super or just throw when you don’t have meter. d.LK, d.LK xx super works good too.
-Jump straight up, falling j.HK, d.MK xx super. (tricky to time) You have to time your jump perfectly so you kick hits Cammy in the exact recovery frames where she’s starting to stand up. This is a LOT easier said than done, but when you do this correctly, the damage potential is huge. Don’t get discouraged if you eat a bunch of Cannon Spikes at first. Keep practicing until you can time your j.HK perfectly.
-Jump straight up, land, d.MK xx DP/Super. Again, the timing can be tricky.
Those are all the main drill counters for C-Sagat I can think of. Most of the time I just stick to roll, throw or walk forward and block.
i pretty sure that st.lk also stuffs cammy’s cannon drill. not much risk, but not as much reward.
I get a trade whenever I try to do that. It happens to me versus K-Cammy, so I know for sure it’s not just because the drill might of been RC’d. Is there a special timing to stuff it clean?
I think you have to do it like so it hits her on the start up of the drill. If you try to hit her OUT of it with s.lk, you get the dreaded trade.
spamming standing shorts is pretty risk free against cammy kcxj… if she trys to spiral arrow from most ranges short will stuff it. If it misses you have time to block or strong uppercut huggles
oh yeah, and uh… she can far standing fierce to trade with your short, but if the opponent knows that you can s. fierce her in the face, YAY :encore:
I spammed s.lk on cammy in a tournament three time in a row.
The first 2 were close standing lk… Then she rolled and, threw me after the third one? Meh…
Dam that is soooooo true. I lost my torunament match on friday :karate: because I did not commit.
I had C sagat… just landend hp. dp, in the corner.
then I did… back dashed, to tiger crush… to land I front of k blanka… went for c.lk s.lp on wake up and I just blanked out. I should have supered ,or DPed after the stand jab.
I couldent make up my mind… :sad:
I heard you guys cheated and gave Bmore some broken stick just so he wouldn’t win and take all your money again.
Yes. The stick B-more used was Tyranidman’s/Isaac Graham/The Peoples Champ’s.
Isaac stick is allways on point,except when B-chun trys to block c.lp,c.mp super with Chun li. :pleased:
Thank’s Isaac
Your Sagat Vs. Sagat tips really helped me alot.
Do you got any tips on fighting SAGAT VS. Vega Claw?
like how do you fight a Super Turtling ass Vega.
dosent C sagat have the advantage? Because I have litte experience fighting a “play it safe” Vega with Shoto/Sagat. :crybaby: