Is it just not possible to get TU xx FADC xx F+RH, Ultra on Gouken?? Try as I like, i just can’t seem to get it down on this guy. Luckily no one picks him!
Chun is an exception because she basically has the best dashback in the game. Sagat, not so much. VS Ryu, Chun li can focus the c.mk, dash back, and block the hado. Pretty much any other character, save for a few, cannot.
cr lk cr lk cr mp is so good…
It pushes characters away, increasing the chances for a wiffed TU. It’s an okay combo to start a tigershot FADC combo with but it adds quite a bit to damage scaling in the process.
The walking you do after FADC is enough to walk right under gouken. You need to let go of forward after dashing for a split second and then hit forward plus RH.
Every single character in the game has a slightly different timing with the F+HK after TU FADC. Mess with your timing.
If it is a close match I always TU FADC backdash into ultra. My win percentage has went up tremendously since then.
doesn’t work against gouken btw
Against the following characters its better to either backdash to ultra or do the ultra immediately after the FADC:
-Boxer (everyone knows this one I think, his floaty fall is annoying)
-Gouken (back-dash seems iffy, so go forward into ultra)
-Seth(same as Boxer, floaty fall)
-Cammy (like Gouken, forward-dash cuz you could whiff if you back-dash)
-Sagat (at midscreen f.HK is okay, but anywhere near the end of the screen and you stand a chance of whiffing your Ultra’s finisher altogether)
Most of the other characters have similar timing… not EXACTLY the same, but similar.
Guys, I am getting owned by M.Bison (Dictator).
His headstomp is so annoying. How to counter it? I know jump back + hk or mk but I can’t do much, if I fireball he headstomps and I have to crouche block alot because he does the slide low kick.
Just in general he’s really hard for my sagat.
thanks for the tips on FADC into ultra, that character list really helps! I just resigned to skip the F+RH on all the characters on the list and go straight for the ultra after a forward dash.
As for dictator, just be patient! To counter the head stomp use j. fierce as it hit better air to air then any of his kicks. As for his slide, just block it a few times and punish the hell out of it! That will stop him from using it against you. Also I find that TK owns dictator, so abuse this move! This is made even easier because of the fact that dictator doesn’t have a DPish move to reversal out of your block string so keep up the pressure! Another thing that helps with dictator is that his jump is so high (therefore lots of airtime) you can easily punish him for jumping. The tool dictator has against sagat is his awesome cross ups so try to avoid getting in range for those. You can keep him out of this range by putting on the pressure when he gets in his cross up range (DO NOT ABUSE TIGER SHOTS).
what is his best combo off of c.lk? The best i can get is C.lk,extu,ultra . The damage is 422. I know the following info is likely old to you guys but please don’t bite my head off as it’s new to me. I just found out that it’s possible to hit confirm c,lk into tu. Incase atleast one person reading this post doesn’t know how. Just do c.lk (hold DF). Then quickly move the stick to D and back to DF. Then if the c.lk connects hit any punch and you will combo into his tu. Assuming you did it all correctly. If the hit is blocked just don’t hit punch. What i’m trying to say is i found out that with a little practice you can learn to hit confirm from normals into specials.
put up ur flame shield dude.
You must have godlike reactions. An average person can hit confirm off 2 shorts/jabs. Hit confirming off one short, thats madness.
This is a good match-up provided you know what you’re doing, and like any other match-up, takes practice. Things to note:
-Dictator is not as easy to zone as other non-fireball characters, because of his great mobility through DRs and Headstomps as well as his weird jump arc, so throw Shots sparingly.
-Do NOT try and TU him on blocked LK scissors… it is safe on block and if you TU you’re asking to get punished on recovery. Punishable scissors are the HK and EX version (not sure about the MK… can someone shed light on this?)
-Headstomps can be annoying at first but the key is jump back fierce. Kills that shit swiftly provided you time it right. U can also try walking backwards, which causes him to whiff and there’s a short time frame here that you can punish… just be aware of your positioning on screen because you don’t wanna be backing up only to hit the end of the level. I also advise against back-dash, because he can still get you during this.
-TK rapes his psycho crusher and scissors. At the proper distance and with proper timing, you can shut down his ground game as far as specials go.
-When he has ultra, stop jumping. U jumping is asking for free ultra set-up. Also beware his FA when he has ultra as well.
There is no definite way, as match-ups are can be entirely player dependent in many cases. I hope this helps anyway. Anyone feel free to add or critique.
well don’t know about having god like reactions. Honestly i would say i have bad reaction time. Also to be clear i’m talking about training mode. Not the same as the heat of battle. i just use their facial expressions as my Que. if i see that oh that really hurt look i hit the button. I am not 100 percent though as i some times do the it to slow and miss combo or get carried away and do the extu even though the c.lk was blocked. i actually think of myself as being a bit on the scrubby side and didn’t think it was that big of deal to be able to hit confirm off of 1 hit. Perhaps i was just getting lucky i’ll retest later. Anyway my question still stands what is the most powerful combo off of c.lk. I would like to know the most powerful with ultra and with out ultra. Anyway i’m kinda weird in that most people find extu,ultra to be more difficult then tu,fadc,ultra… For me extu,ultra is not that hard but i can’t do tu,fadc,ultra at all.
just train yourself to do the short short jab string. it’s not hard and will infinitely help your game more than trying to hit confirm ex TU off of one short.
Also ex TU ultra is not hard at all, you literally just mash the fuck out of KKK and D+F during ex TU, but get it to land 90/100 tries on both sides then we’ll talk. I still wouldn’t even consider using it at 90% success rate since you can easily eat a reversal ultra every time you fail.
EX Uppercut > Ultra doesn’t work on Dhalsim, Viper, Honda, Guile, Abel, or Gief, so becareful!
are you guys really consistently pulling off ex TU into ultra…? if so… that’s sick…
Thanks for the helpful post 