I don’t remember all the numbers but it seems like his nerfs are crazy… and like someone else said, as long as they nerfed everyone else too, that’s cool.
But just looking at training mode data, landing a T.Uppercut does 100 damage no matter which punch used, and landing a T.Knee does like 50 damage if hits once. That just seems crazy that some of his normal attack, especially fierce attacks do more damage than specials (?) What’s the point of a special move then?
What’s really disappointing is the overnerfed Tiger Uppercut damage, from 170 to 100 is just too much. Around 130 would have been plenty. Sagat is still slow as hell, but now it feels he hits like a girl. I’d rather seen his comeback potential adjusted…
Sagat is still damn good, I just got a message last night from a player calling me a tier whore because of Sagat…
MK TK does 10 on block at SSF4.
MK TK doe 25 on block at SF4.
So whats the point of TK pressure if it dont do any damage?
SSF4 Sagat can’t really do TK pressure past two reps… if you try it I noticed it becomes very unsafe. Misplaced TK on Rog means you eat jab xx headbutt xx ultra.
Yeah, well some moron insulting you does not make Sagat any better or worse :razzy:
I guess we have to be patient and see how he turns out. The thing right now probably is that many characters either got a cool new ultra or some buffs and Sagat got a lot of nerfs (granted, there is the new scar, but I believe it’s probably not really useful until your skill is pro level).
he was nerfed a little too much but hes still awesome and looks sick also do his tiger shots seem slower
You still get frame advantage when it’s well spaced and just to keep your rushdown going.
Just backin’ up that guy. 'Sim was better than O.Sagat in Super Turbo.
And er… I’m kinda happy to see Sagat nerfed. Not cause I think he’s OP or anything, but now only the good Sagats will win, seeing as he’ll require a little effort.
Wait…wait…Sagat was fast before?
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Dude stop trolling.
Good call. I do believe the natural advantages are still there, but its not its not as prodominent (sp?) as it was. But i am happy as well that sagat got nerfed so we dont have to hear people bitch about him as much. One thing to realise, if u do play sagat, people immediately hate u… As if i like any1 i play against anyways lol
I actually find Sagat to be pretty fast… His walking speed is obviously slow as hell, but since I’m dashing most of the time, it’s not really an issue.
I still play with sagat and don’t care he got nerf because I respect sagat. Whats sad is that even when I win I still hear the bash talking about sagat is top tier/ cheap… no respect , just one cry baby to another…
The standing light kick nerf sucks balls and takes away a lot of the fun of playing him.
Damage isn’t an issue, that standing light kick was his beast close/mid tool and now he gets raped even more when put in the corner. I guess you can still zone people really well but I feel Capcom did too much, the standing light kick nerf is the worst.
What the fuck is OP? I’ve been playing Street Fighter since the early 90’s, and I’ve never heard this. Is this some kind of new school SFIV talk? The only thing I could think it means is original poster, but that doesn’t make sense.
It can be original poster or overpowered depending on the context.
My 2 cents as some others have said if you know Sagat you can still win in this game however I don’t think even good Sagat players can get past a veteran Guile or Ryu. If you played Sagat during the entire alpha series it was pretty much a nightmare unless you were some custom combo abuser he had no real game and to be honest he is now not that different from his alpha self.
Agreed . Face a compenent high level Guile player and tell me how much AS has any use or help whatsoever with his nerfs.
Edit: Fuck it. I’m done.
agreed EL, you cant teach greatness and some people just WONT listen