Maybe that’s why, but your reasoning doesn’t justify Sagat being overpowered in vanilla SFIV
Someone is always gonna be overpowered bro. Always. You might think no one will be in Super. But overpowered is simply a matter of relativity especially in the SFIV series where alot of char’s are in fact underpowered and don’t have great options.
Speaking of overpowered, who is looking to become the new Sagat in SSFIV? Dudley perhaps, but will he also be as strong in comparison, or will he be a bit stronger than the rest of the cast but not too strong? Not saying that sagat is unbeatable but for most of the cast its pretty hard.
i think Akuma, Dudley would shoot to the top.
ill still play him… dunno if ill still main him, im gonna be trying Makoto as i like her style
Well I think the most ideal route would have been to change the gameplay system so characters like Sagat won’t get such a huge reward for landing an uppercut that was safe on block. Though of course changing the mechanics of FADC would just be too difficult. So instead they just nerfed the damage on his uppercut while changing the one thing they could feasibly change which was uppercut trades. I definitely won’t mind a Ryu or Sagat that’s less reliant on uppercuts to make huge comebacks and win matches. It makes for a smarter game period.
If anything the only thing Sagat players getting their character nerfed should really whine about is the s.LK change. That definitely takes away what little footsies he already had. I mean at least his jumping normals will still be buff but Sagat being weaker during footsies will ultimately bring him down in strength as a character. At this point though we all now how fighting games are and if Sagat just doesn’t feel as interesting to you there is still 34 other characters to choose from and hopefully Capcom did their best to buff those characters and make them more interesting. Either way Sagat will still be far from the worst character in the game.
Am I the only one who thinks cody is easily going to be top tier? Or at least one of them.
Dudley is going to be good I think, but I just can’t picture him being top.
Why not? He has above average HP, good offensive options, many ways to combo into ultra, a counter, good normals. Seems like he’s going to be strong
I think you reversed rolls there, friend.
Juri vs Sagat
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it doesnt
just saying someone will always be top tier. always
its nice that there is a super and that the devs are listening to the community, but with the whiners and scrubs they’re nerfing characters the wrong way.
well, it’ll be fun to hear the dudley QQs next month
lol did the damage on Sagats fireballs stay the same in SSFIV?
Makoto v Sagat:
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Shades of Abel v Sagat match-up again? Sagat is pretty free on doing whatever he wants on Makoto. I won’t be surprised if this ends up 6-4 or even 7-3 for Sagat.
Watching that Juri vid - ultra 1 is still much more useful than ultra 2. There were a couple of times where Juri would’ve died or getting close to dead if Sagat has ultra 1.
Juri’s fireballs are also useless against fireballers - I won’t be surprised seeing more shotos and Sagat try to bait Juri to dive-kick them since dive kicks are very unsafe.
in vanilla sf4 :
akuma srk 190
ryu srk 160
sagat srk 170
scrubs will always complain about whoever is top tier.
wtf @ 1:30. They still didn’t fix his ultra whiffing in the corner. Lame. Sometimes it whiffs even worse and the opponent is able to ultra you as you recover from your own ultra.
I think its too early to tell matchups, as you see i played very bad and didnt punish any jumps (for example). Time will tell!
Pretty sure that only happens against another Sagat, because the final uppercut outright whiffs. Although against Rose it’s glitched, the final uppercut doesn’t come out against her. You can do Ultra > Super against her because of it, lol.
Well I guess I bring it here. Sagat Glitch.
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I hope capcom fixes this, because 55% damage off 1 throw is way too much 
Fixes it?
It took 2 years for the community to find this. You really think Capcom knew about it?