How do Sagat players feel about heabutt going through low tigershot??
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If you have played ST then you know this is a standard affair and how it should have been in Vanilla.
I’m still not sure why they decided to nerf tiger uppercut and tiger knee despite the actual correct fixes they did (lower HP, lower ultra damage, headbutt crossing over low tigershot).
I mean, with that, Sagat actually becomes pretty balanced and fine - nerfing tiger upper and tiger knee just means people are going to switch to the next upper tiers (Cody or Dudley most likely).
As a Honda player, its more a don’t throw low tigers full screen thing than actually being an offensive weapon (Good Sagats just wont until you get close and can’t react as well or loose your charge) and just means less chip and dodging to be done to get to mid screen.
Where it becomes really useful is when/if the Honda gets a decent lead - he can now sit on it, not worrying about Tiger Shots flying at him for 2/3 of a round and Sagat has to come and do something, while Honda sits on that charge.
I could seriously argue lower health was not a correct balance change. At least not to 1000. I could get on board with 1050, but w/e too late now.
1000 HP with the same tiger upper and tiger knee damage should be fine - basically a very slow character with standard health but good priority and huge damage options.
Too late to do anything now obviously… Shame since although I truly detest his unbalanced OPness in vanilla, I like fighting against his playstyle.
call it a Sagat nerf or a Honda buff…
back to SF2 days… Honda Headbutts fly over Low Tigers
No more trade and weaker TU seemed like a good start but maybe 1000 health is overkill. Wonder why Capcom is against intervals of 25.
Like most girls should be 975 and geif should be 1175, etc.
I could see TU getting a slight damage nerf simply because of Kara capabilities, but 100 is wack. I agree that health should be 1050. There is no reason a huge muscular guy like Sagat should take as many hits to get knocked out as Dan.
lol stop applying the “looks” logic for balancing the game, that’s completely irrational.
I think Sagat got some really reasonable nerfs. He’s still very strong (keeps most of his moves, +karas), he’ll still be top tier. You just won’t be able to win by doing ‘noob shit’ anymore, like in the previous video posted - spamming random TUs. A welcomed change if you ask me.
By general concensus, the game logic in any game usually makes the “slow” character makes up with brute power, I don’t know why they nerfed his damage in this case.
I think people are more frustrated at the loss of cancellable s.lk rather than the TU damage, I don’t really mind it, I mean it still does what its suppose to do, its still a reliable AA, it didn’t trade as often as ryus in the testing vids.
I really wish people would stop saying he’ll still be top tier. He’s definitely going to be an effective character even with the nerfs, probably in the top 10, but no way is he going to be top tier. Weaker (now) footsies up close and no real damage threat to counter it is going to hurt him some.
Imma laugh when these ppl still get raped by sagat
What do you mean “no real damage threat”? 100+(counterhit/FADC crap) damage on a reversal is not scary? It’s completely safe with 2bars mind you. His Ultra juggle is still going to hurt, it’s just going to do about half life instead of 60-70%. His fireball game is left intact. He will still be able to pressure with normals you just need to push a button other than s.LK. He is still going to be top and if you don’t believe that then I have to claim your stupidity.
He’s still a good character so, yeah, that’s a possibility. Not sure why you would say that out of the blue though.
Yeah go ahead. I like the way you replied to my post, by the way.
It’s almost like you think I said, “Sagat sucks now, waaaaahhhhh.”
You did say
So you basically did say that then tried to cover your tracks.
I don’t think he’ll be top tier, but I do think he’ll still be good. If you want to keep reading into what I did not say and pretend I’m backpedaling, then please, continue.
Ok so with that logic all girls should have 950-900 stamina and weak damage even if their playstyle doesn’t support it?
Game balance takes priority over looks imho.
i agree emblemlord sagat needs more hp, is 1500 good?