[quote=“Mr.Basara, post:1316, topic:81334”]
Seth said a bunch of stupid shit… I know he was just trying to keep the hype up, but now, looking back on it, he just sounds like a lying son of a bitch…QUOTE]
Did you ever think perhaps Seth was right at the time? There has been countless revisions the past few months so yeah…
All and all I think you guys are overreacting a bit much. I thought all the people who actually played Sagat in the final build still say he was solid and strong.
Maybe he does his job, which means saying what Capcom wants to feed us. I mean, even if the plan at the beginning was to radically buff everybody (which has more potential for imbalance if you know anything about game design) and then changed later in the development process… that’s not his fault. People saying “SETH R LIAR DERP” or anything REMOTELY similar don’t understand that Seth was (at one point) a player like most of us. He doesn’t WANT to misinform or lie to us. But now, he works for Capcom. Accept that he exists (as far as we’re concerned) to do Capcom’s bidding and spout whatever they want us to think/believe. Nothing wrong with a man earning his paycheck.
I’m not hating on him in that sense. If I was getting cheddar by lying to us, shit, I wouldn’t be complaining. But, I’m not. So I’ma hate. And I only hate on him cuz he’s the face of it all, as far as I know. If I had a name to blame, I’d put it right with him.
Ever occur to you to blame the people actually developing the game? Maybe they told him at the time that they had no plans to nerf characters? Not his fault of they changed their minds after they told him.
how much did this used to do? and is this full bar or half bar?
Damn, if I was getting paid by Capcom, I wouldn’t mind telling all sorts of lies to you guys on SRK. Like Sagat’s new scar move gives him old stamina, damage, and kara teleports, Cammy being able to FADC -> counter -> FACD (not a typo, new move) -> CS, Gouken’s U2 having unblockable properties with or without charge and having 2 frame startup, Fei Long being high mid, Guile being able to FK -> shades -> ultra 2. I wouldn’t give a fuck, I’d be saying all sorts of shit, but then again, I like money. It buys stuff that I can have.
:tup:
In the words of Krusty the Clown: “They pulled a dumptruck full of money up to my house…I’m not made of stone.”
For the record, let me repeat. I WANT ALL CHARS TO BE STRONG!!!
So when I see DUMB SHIT like:
Rose has a nerfed backdash and her ex spiral is still ass
Counter ultras
Ken still doesn’t get full ultra of SRK FADC
Gouken didn’t get any notable boosts to his wake-up like a better backdash for example
DP’s gettin hella nerfed across the board
Gouki’s rh getting slowed by a frame making it worse in footsies, as a cop out way to deal with his loop. (heard they changed this though and now his rh is back to old form, but they removed the loop sum other way which is fine)
Blanka’s up ball still be hella unsafe even on hit
Gief losing Health (What?!)
and yeah Sagat nerfs on specials moves and his normals
Shit like this has me scratching my head like wtf is Capcom thinking? Why don’t you address these terrible weaknesses? Why don’t you make chars more fun and rewarding? Why the hell are you nerfing Gief’s health? It’s fuckin Gief!!! He needs that shit!!! Why are you nerfing Rose’s backdash?! She is already hella free on wake-up and she STILL has that 2 frame gap in her ex spiral where invincibility frames dissappear and you can HIT HER BEFORE THE HITBOX APPEARS.
Guile gets sunglasses…
GUILE GETS SUNGLASSES!!!
I’m so fucking salty right now.
What? You saying adding glasses to Guile was a waste of time and they should have used that time for other characters. What Blasphemy.
Adding Shades really helps Guiie :(. Shades helps the gameplay mechanics of this game.
Not to mention fei long 
I believe the King’ll be fine man… we just coping with the initial shock of the nerfage.
I’m 100% with you on that.
I am actually really pissed about the rose backdash nerf, I was hoping she would be tourney viable in SSF4, but that is yet another freaking hinderance.
I love Rose as a character, so I’ll always still play her casually, but no fix to EX SS and nerfed backdash = She probably won’t be any more tourney viable than she is right now.
I love fighting games and overall I really do think Super will be a better game then Vanilla, but most of these nerfs just seem so needless. I don’t understand them at all. I will warm to Super over time just as I warmed to Vanilla over time I’m sure of it, but for now…I’m slavin away in the salt mines.
Wait… hold up. They nerfed Rose’s backdash?
But…
But…
Why?
She’s already pretty much helpless as far as wake-up options goes, so what the fuck is their reason for doing this?
:tdown:
I know exactly how you feel.
I’m a firm believer that if they gave all the lower tiers the fixes they needed to their game, the higher tiers wouldn’t have needed any nerfs outside of some damage output changes.
Which is what I thought they were going for in Super. Apparently neither of those things happened. Oh well. There’s always Super SFIV Turbo.
Until then, move over and make some room for me in those salt mines.
Or Gen’s Mk>hands. I NEVER play Gen, but I ALWAYS thought that was the coolest combo in the entire game when I’d see dudes like Yeb landing those in a 18 hit 3 second combo. I mean, I really wish that their resolution to balancing out the games, was to buff up the bottom 10-15 characters. Give Guile a linkable ultra, like Blanka has or something. Dan seemed to have gotten a few good buffs. make Fei Long and Cammy’s ultras fully connect off their combos that only give partial damage currently. I’m sure they could have figured it out. While I understand that they might have wanted to do like a damage reduction on sagat’s Ultra, or get rid of his FRh x 2, they seem to have turned him into a sagat that just had a serious stroke.
No one understands it at all.
It goes on the list with Guile’s sunglasses, Vega having EX Mask/claw throw, Gen’s MK > Hands nerf, etc…etc…etc…
I laughed here. Most of that wasn’t all that bad though, aside from maybe rose’s backdash, but out of the weak characters what they did to her seemed to have made the most positive difference apparently
I know none of the characters I play are really looking worse in Super, but I still feel really disappointed in the changes. It’s like they could have done so much more than they did. It’s like on xmas when you asked for a shitload of presents. You get some of it, and its shit you wanted, but you still feel kinda disappointed, since you didn’t get that other stuff (like you would have rather had the other stuff over the stuff you had, even though when you wrote the list, they were all equal in priority). Of course, this is from a kid standpoint. Any adult with this mentality needs to be shot.
If there are bitches in the salt mines, can I come, too? Otherwise, I’ll just wait outside…