LOL clearly not if you are withholding entire prepositions.
(JK, sorry had to say it…just poking fun at the grammar nazi’s on here).
EDIT: Wow my reply red parried your ninja delete.
Is this that really important to you? Not everyone in this forum is a native English speaker (and thank goodness they aren’t, because they translate a lot of great info for the English speakers).
I agree with Emblem Lord that all character need good shit, thats what made ST so much fun to play.
Every character had amazing tools at their disposal…
Fei Long - Chicken wing amazing tool for fireballs, as an AA it let you combo flame kick afterwards. Ridiculously good normals and super.
Ryu - Superior fireball game and air-tatsu shenannigans. Great Super.
Honda - Hands spam, ochio throw, ridiculous headbutt priority.
Chun - Superior air-game and ridiculous throwing game.
Bison - Beastly Psycho Crusher and touch of death combos, amazing pressure game.
Claw - Unmatched speed and poking game. Ridiculous walldive shenannigans and amazing Super that only drains when performed on opponent.
T.Hawk - Probably the most amazing looking command throw, excellent normals, and far range with his specials. Command grab traps.
Guile - Iron defense keep-out game. Flashkick has amazing range and priority. Normals are top-notch. Super hits for full damage even if opponent crosses you up at the last second.
and on and on…
Everyone had amazing tools, everyone was fun to play as. When people get nerfed, it takes away possibilities, and thats what made the game fun.
Yeah, I decided that I’ve said my piece and I’m moving on. I got two hours of sleep last night stressing over some real life stuff, so I’m a bit salty today. :lol:
My list was Sagat, Seth, Akuma, Ryu. It would have been fine if they just toned down Sagat’s damage output, less stamina and take off the RH trade into Ultra
As someone who found Sagat overpowered in SFIV, I still agree that nerfing TU damage to 100 across the board, as well as nerfing his stamina to 1000 is too much.
They gave Sagat the exact wrong nerfs.
sagat aint no king no more hes just a flop.
Lol, as far as I know, we don’t spell much “mutch” over here, slang or no slang.
Anyway, yeah, nerfing Tiger Uppercut like that was a bit much.
They’re going to turn sagat into sean by the third installment of this.
anyone know what his fireball damage is like in Super?
They should’ve just stopped with toning HP to 1000, no more ultra trade, and nerfing ultra damage for Sagat.
Nerfing both TU and TK was too much. And I HATE playing against OP vanilla Sagat.
Nominated. Sagat has been truely and utterly raped . LOl at s-kills comment about " Sagat got even better guys!" . that jab tiger knee damage was painful to watch.
I’m laughing hard now remembering him say Sagat got better. He is in no way shape or form better
Is this the Claw thread of vanilla SFIV?
And yea some of these nerfs were uncalled for.
Seth said a bunch of stupid shit… I know he was just trying to keep the hype up, but now, looking back on it, he just sounds like a lying son of a bitch…
Halfway through this, I couldn’t really take anything he said seriously. It was almost on par with the folks saying the new alts were free or those guys who came up a few weeks before the 3s characters were released acting like the fucking messiahs.
Aw well… Sorry to use your thread to rant, Sagat players. I’m sure you guys have enough shit to cry about.
Even though I think Sagat in vanilla SFIV was a bit much, I don’t think he deserved a damage and stamina boost. Capcom should be in prison for this kind of rape…
Sagat’s looking like he caught Ibuki syndrome. As in, Ibuki was dominant in 2nd Impact but nerfed to decent (at best) status in 3S. Same deal for Sagat in SSFIV.
lol @ all the whining…dude i know whos played the game thinks sagat its still top tier in relation to the rest of the cast (w/ tiger cannon), along with ryu. i wouldnt worry too much. een if he doesnt wind up at the top in the end, he is at least still solid as fuck. if you are a sagat player then you should have no problem playing sagat.
btw tiger cannon punishes blanka ball anywhere in the screen dunno if anyone ever posted that
Can’t say I feel sorry for any of you Sagat mainers though. So many shameless, spoiled tier whores. Is it really important to you that your main be god tier as opposed to top tier? Sagat needed to get nerfed. He wasn’t overpowered, but he sure as hell wasn’t balanced. I’m not sure it he needed to be toned down this much, but the dude can’t be godly in every way.
Nerfing Sagat allows Capcom to balance the game without having to give the low tiers a shitload of changes and buffs to make them worthy enough. Sure, it’s a lazier way, but y’all didn’t really believe that whole “everyone is getting buffed” talk when there’s a perfect candidate for nerfing in Sagat?
Think about it this way:
-TU->FADC->f.rh->ultra does ~460 damage or so…which is still VERY respectable for a very easy to land ultra.
-Sagat essentially had the best zoning game in all of SF4 while also having the best offense. Now he only has one of the two
-Think of the mindgame you can generate by being able to power up TU, especially when you still have 2 bars and an ultra
-No one knows how to properly use Tiger Cannon yet…I get the feeling that not everything in SSF4 will devolve to FADC->ultra
-Faster focus attack means Sagat’s focus is going to become very deadly.
Essentially, he was hit with some nerfs, but it looks like he is being tuned to what he does best: zoning the hell out of you.
I get the feeling that his TU is going to be an unbelievable anti air in super (not that it wasn’t in 4) if they scaled the damage as hard as they did.