Sagat Improvement Thread

Classic Fighting Games Ultra Street Fighter IV
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Since I saw that vid all I’ve been saying is I see no point to choosing U2 over U1 unless it’s got some hidden trick to it… like punishing Honda’s headbutt or a Blanka Ball on block. I would use it in those matchups if it was fast enough to punish those. Until something like this happens I’ll stick with U1 thanks.

EDIT: Random thought… it was said that 2nd Ultras in this game were to deal specifically with match-up problems right. Well with st.LK cancel gone Blanka would have a much easier time getting in on Sagat. Would U2 balance this out?

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You can use it like you used Tiger Cannon in A2.

You threw a fireball? GGPO 30%+

You jumped at the wrong time? GGPO 30+%.

I’m not saying it’s better than Tiger Destruction, but it won’t be useless by any stretch of the word.

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His ultra2 will have some uses.

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Pro Tip: Use Ultra 2 vs Gouki. Purely speculation, but I would imagine it being useful in that match vs air fireballs and red fireballs.

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Probably not as much red fireballs as a ryu player red fireball tends to eat a LOT of super/ultra fireball hits not only reducing the damage substantially but making it take longer to hit often giving him enough time to block. Unless he throws it at you from sweep range than just jump into a combo as it has ass startup : / but than again it could be a jab version argh MINDGAMES

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I think the F+HK into Tiger Connon damage ppl are talking about needs a closer look. Crossup, c. lk x 3, cr.lp. TU, fadc, f+rh, half meter ultra. Ultra damage looking weak will be a given. Sagat still looks sexy :slight_smile:

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Im thinking about U2 could be beneficial in the Sim matchup. Especially if they get fireball happy, or j.hp. Im pretty confident u2 will have its uses, but certainly would not like to use it in a tu,fadc,f.hk set up.

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to me it still looks like you can juggle U2 off a high ex tiger shot granted someone gets AA’ed from it

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I imagine that U2 might be able to punish a Gouki who tries to teleport away on wakeup from a knockdown.

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U2 would be a beastly option select

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Right at the start, Sagat does a tiger knee and the damage on that is looks mighty nerfed. It looks like it does less or about the damage of a jab.

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HAHAHAHAHA.

Wow.

This dude is a joke. Too bad too cuz I’m really feeling his new alt costume.

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Yeah, it looks like a trade during tiger knee frame trap would hurt Sagat more than the opponent now.

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Holy shit, they took away the main thing that made this dude good. His damage output. He isn’t Ryu ok. He doesn’t have gdlk footsies or amazing OS set-ups or safe jump set-ups. He has zoning, solid rushdown and damage.

Now what does he have…just zoning.

wtf did they do to this guy?

And he’s gonna be top 5? Really guys?

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WTF? are you kidding me? they even fuckd up his tiger knee? wtffffff and they call him emperor of muay thai and he cant even get his freakin knee right LMAO, wow

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LOL at everyone crying about Sagat’s nerfs. Oh noes! He used to have everything and now he’s just good at some things and decent at others. How on earth can he compete now?

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TK did a bit more then a jab in that vid with the second hit. First off he didn’t even really need a damage nerf on TU OR TK. Ultra damage nerf is fine. But his TU did 10 more then Ryu’s. I mean seriously wtf? And his TU wasn’t even the strongest of the DP moves. So again, wtf?

Not my problem since he isn’t my main in super, but still…

And he didn’t have everything. Stop being nonsensical.

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So, when the 3rd version SFIV comes out, you will jump out to the next supposed top tier? You clearly have no skills. Go watch some DSP videos.

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Play him, make a vid.

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Theres nothing wrong on wanting to play the best character in the game, however saying sagat will be a joke in ssfiv is just delusional.