Nerfs
-lower damaging normals
-lower damaging specials
-lower damage ultra
-slower tiger shots
-lower health
-tiger knee unsafe
buffs
+give him his other eye
It’s still roughly the same:
Ryu: 17.5%
Ken: 16.1%
Akuma: 8.2%
Sagat: 7.4%
Zangief: 6.9%
That table alone should give an idea of how powerful Sagat is.
This columns in that list are Character, Share of Play, No of Grandmasters, Number of Masters, BP over 50K (I think)
Hey, thanks for that. Interesting numbers.
-Edit. Reading google translation of the various pages of that wiki is hilarious.
I would also like to add that Sagat needs a better alternate costume.
Or a BIGGER camel toe.
ur a clown yo make the shotos unplayable because i see a ton TON of MORE RYU KEN PUNK ASS SHOTOS THAN SAGATS. I use neither of them but if your going to make sagat weaker, make shotos weaker too.
i think sagat/ryu will be takin some pretty heavy nerfs come ssf4 anyway so i wouldnt worry too much.
btw, this thread is OBVIOUSLY a joke made by some guy that just got whipped by a scrubby sagat and wanted to post an ironic thread which invoked a load of sarcasm and hate, just to get his point across that sagat obviously doesnt need a buff lol.
Sagat is really the only character who plain needs nerfs some certain moves need tweaks for other characters but by looking at the matchups Sagat is the only character clearly above the rest when it comes to arcades (with guile and vega being plain weaker)
Lower Ultra Damage by like a 15%
st. HK fixed hitbox
Fireball damage same as ryu (10 points less per fireball)
You can keep your damn knees for all i care
Slight nerf to normal Damage his go from like 110% to 105% or so.
f. RH damage by like 20 points
I don’t want sagat to be bad just not retarded.
Good info! I use sagat, but I really wouldn’t mind him being nerfed as long as it is to achieve better balance across the board, and not just to make ryu the s tier character. He’ll always be top tier, but they could make a few tweaks to even out some of the advantageous matchups. My suggestion would be to change some of the hitboxes on his moves… That would be it. Some of his moves hit when they really shouldn’t. Mainly his tiger knee. I think that if they just fixed his hit boxes as a nerf that it would even out some of the matchups.
I hope they do.
this has gotta be the biggest joke ever. sagat is the most broken character in the game.
first off in the story he got trashed by ryu so why is he better then him or best character in the game at all, he should be a low ranking b tier character or a high c ranking tier character.
second his health, offence, and defence is way way to high, his offence should drop to half of what it is now his defence should slightly drop an his health should slightly drop.
third for those who dont think his offence should be drop to half here a big reason why it should, his defence is on zangief’s lvl an all his moves push u to far back an knock u down so even if u do get in close on him you dont do that much damage to him an then he counters you an he does twice as much to you as you did to him.
forth he has to many anti air moves which also all push you far back an can be followed up with another move, he has his tiger uppercut, tiger knee, his standing high kick, an his foward high kick (spin high kick)
final his ultra is over powered
also throwin this in there that his tiger shot speed needs to be slowed down
What is this I don’t even
just make this guy invincible and add 1 hit K.O. while your at it… and the button combo for it is select…
improvement thread for Sagat… LOL…
Capcom: Hire this man.
It’s about time sagat’s fire-punching body starts wearing down like with Akuma.
The only improvement i’d give him is a parrot.
For the first time I wish it was possible for a thread to actually get lower than a 1-star rating.
I’m not trolling or anything, hear me out - it’s all in your presentation. It’s what you’ve called this thread, man. “Sagat IMPROVEMENT thread”? I guess you can interpret “improvement” to mean “improvement for everyone ELSE in the game”, by suggesting tweaks which FIX his balance rather than make it worse… but instead your first post is a master class in comedy.
Sagat is traditionally strong as hell, that’s fine. But to give him high-HP, link a sneeze into Ultra, and instant recovery on TS? No thanks.
I actually don’t want Sagat to get the total nerf-bat here and drop to low tier or anything, but come on.
The shits safe on block from max range and it has armor break, wtf else do you want it to do?
Honestly, I’d like a better alternate costume. :l
This. I’d pay for that.
i’d like for him to be able to cross the screen in 30 frames - kokonoe, blaze blue, 2009