thats what i thought
look at the date of the original post.
At the Las Vegas Fight Club did anybody get a chance to see if Sagats Ultra fully connects in the corner?
is non cancellability of st.lk a considerable nerf? i dont play sagat, can alioune or emblem give me the lowdown on how it will affect his game?
i should hope not
Fuck with HDR Gat in ST:HD Remix.
It hurts his footsies and pressure. What makes lk a threat during footsies is buffered TS/TK. It has the most range out of all of Sagat’s normals and more range then pretty much any normal in the game aside from a few command normals, Rose’s rh and a few others. Also it hurts his TK strings if he can’t cancel off of it. If Sagat is beyond lk range then he must resort to a different option or mix-up so it will affect his rushdown as well albeit in a small way.
I mean you ask if this is a nerf. Lemme ask you this. Fei long can’t cancel off low mediums. Wouldn’t you say this is a limiting factor on his gameplay? Same for Guile as well. Of course it is. You are limiting this characters options and that’s never a good thing.
i wanted to know if it was a considerable nerf. Does the st.lk x special plug holes in his offense, or can he substitute it for something else so that it wont even be noticed.
for a good player it’s a big nerf. for the most players i met online it won’t be a nerf cause they don’t use it.
Sagats’ st.LK losing cancelability is pretty big. No more st.lk ts or tk is big. I’m not sure if it will completely remove his tk loops or reduce them to a cheese free level, as I do not play Sagat, but I know that it will reduce their’ effectiveness to some extent at least.
Good to hear…he shouldn’t be able to put so much pressure up close in the first place…let this be his weakness… with all these nerfs, my guess is he would still be top tier character…
I agree but you won’t see me lose sleep over it. When it became evident that capcom was in NO WAY going to make the low and mid tiers jump up to truly compete with the top, I figured they would make some surgical nerfs to compensate.
I’d have much rather seen everyone in low and mid get wicked buffs, but I guess this compromise is ok.
St. lk nerfed have ways around it. If you want to continue a TK loop, use cr. lp instead. For footsie purpose it still can beat out that annoying cr.mk from Ryu, but you just won’t get the extra damage from tk or ts.
Parabellum, I hope you’re wrong about this 
Actually me too, believe me, I’ve been saying for MONTHS: “No nerfs, buff the crap out of low and most of mid tier”
But I feel that it just isn’t going to happen. Especially when the changes to Chun so far have been a new ultra (yay), but NERFS to her other tools like st.rh and ex.sbk. Supposedly her c.forward did get sped up a few frames, but I can’t imagine that will be enough to offset those other changes. Just the nerf to st.rh will make the gief matchup a lot harder than it is already.
So yeah…I’m definitely feeling like Capcom is trying hard to preserve a wide spread in the tier lists.
At this point, as much as I love chun, I’ve been really focusing on Dictator. I think he actually fits my playstyle better. Either way, having him as a viable tourney alt is good for me.
bottom line is
sagat will get nerfed
I can’t stand people like you… playing certain characters because of tiers… you like the rest of the sheep flock… baah go eat grass with your buddies
Have you played SSFIV yet? It’s not like everything is final… so i wouldn’t hop the bandwagon yet then again a lot of people do that when they play SFIV…
I’m wondering how his Angry Scar move will work. I know it’s an evasion move that buffs his next TU, but I’m wondering what kind of invincibility it will have, and if it’ll be combo friendly.
Either you didn’t read my post, or you just had a complex partial seizure.
Either re-read my post, or go immediately to a doctor.
Maybe I’m wrong, but didn’t it cause a short “super freeze”?
http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2010/jan/08/sagat-has-evasion-move-ssf4/
Imagine if it also made Tiger Destruction stronger.
I can see it now…
TU, FADC, f.HK, Power Up, Tiger Armageddon, GAME OVER.
O_O
st.LK being non-cancellable nerfs Sagat’s footsie game a great deal… anyone have any ideas on what could be a possible substitute as a viable poke?