Sagat Improvement Thread

People always complain about Sagat doing high damage but apparently nobody complains about Ryu and Rufus getting an ultra situation 70% of the time of how simple it is for Balrog to do headbutt intro ultra or Gouken throw into ultra or Viper exthunder knuckle into ultra.

People just like to attack Sagat because he is #1. If Gen was #1, hate would be flowing into the Gen threads and forums. Sagat is not nearly as OP as people are suggesting. Chun-Li was op in 3S and some dumb ass guy on eventhubs says she wasnt OP because Daigo could parry her ultra meaning anyone could do it. Fucking no brain people here are making the worst, THE WORST suggestions I have ever seen in all my life for any game. This shit blows my mind sometimes with some of the dumb ass, stupid things people suggest such as being able to switch between 3 ultras at any time during the match and like 15 people support it because Darksydephil says this game lags. FUCKING INSANE. Who wants some neg rep?

Have you even visited the Ryu thread? Folks are only talking about his ability to ultra you off of poking you with his little finger…

I haven’t visited the Rufus changes thread, but I’m assuming it’s the same way.

And who gives a damn about DSP? He ain’t shit… Stop elevating his “popularity.”

And give some Sagat suggestions, while you’re bashing all the other suggestions. Some are obviously BS. Some are pretty valid. He does need his Ultra to work properly. At the same time, he doesn’t need to have above average health, high damage output, great zoning, invincible uppercut, fastest projectiles, and so on and so forth…

If Gen was number 1 over some stupid shit, then yeah, everyone would be on him, too. But if Gen, in his current iteration, was number 1, then that would mean that most of the cast must be pretty bad…

lol how can machineking take a thread about a game that hasnt even been released seriously… good show

You ever gonna get online so I can play you?

Subjectivity award goes to?

i’m not getting online until the middle of november when i’m done with this stretch of tournaments :slight_smile:

u can do raw ultra after a counter hit tiger uppercut…

but in all seriousness…i think he needz an spd,…im tired of mashing jab tiger uppercut when im in block stun and it misses becuz the guy hit 3 of hit 4 links right…

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Ryu’s AA jab dp to ultra does like 380 damage, fierce dp fadc ultra does around 450.

Sagat’s TU TRADE f.rh ultra does 620. Same with fierce TU fadc f.rh ultra

That’s why people are complaining, seriously, don’t you get it? I mean, it’s evident that you play sagat but please don’t be so biased.

this thread is full of shit tho, you’re right on that

dont forget kens aa dp to ultra(trade in corner only way it works)…270 damage…talk about power:rock:

seriously thou…its a matter of damage output. like superlollo said there is a difference even with the upper tiers

In all seriousness, his damage output needs to be slightly lowered.

His tiger knee hitbox needs to be reworked. Seriously, the silly cross over tiger knee hitbox in that it still hits behind sagat and that its safe after block is ridiculous, ridiculous pressure tool. I don’t mind that it still hits on the way down in the tiger knee animation but at least reduce the hitbox so that it also doesn’t hit behind sagat as well.

The cross-up tiger knee is so godlike if pulled off but to be frank, it’s honestly quite hard to do.

Yeah it isn’t easy to do, I use sagat myself however i feel the hitbox on tiger knee is bigger than it should be, that it shouldn’t hit behind you, sometimes it just hits randomly even when i feel it shouldn’t have or that i didn’t expect it to hit. Its got a fairly good hitbox already from the front.

If you jump on Sagat, you deserve to get punish. Why would you jump on Sagat when he have ultra?

I agree with above. you shouldn’t jump on that stuff. sagat’s supposed to be a defensive juggernaut. the problem in my eyes is that he’s such an offensive monster as well. I have a feeling they’ll either cut his damage a little or his life a little bit. I hope at least!

u guys are out of your mind if you think sagat needs nerfs.

yeah sagat is a good, strong character, but what needs to be done is that the lower tier (lol tiers) need to be brought up to sagats level, not sagat being brought down to their level.

sagats at kind of an ok place (round mid or mid-high tier imo) but i like playing characters that require a bit of a challenge (unlike balrog which you just spam cr.lp to get you out of everything yawn).

i hear people complaining about his lk knee. Uh block maybe? You know it’s just like bisons scissor kick, safe on block and 2 hits, so why all the bitching about sagats move?

anyway any nerfs to sagat would totally destroy the character.

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And all was right in the world.

Tiger shot spamming.

I can understand the feeling that you should be punished for poorly timed jump ins, but you shouldn’t be punished for that small mistake with 70% of your health bar. I’m not hating or anything, just my thoughts. I’ve recently taken up Sagat and I feel dirty every time I land it.

Jumping in is not the only way to get uppercutted. It’s certainly not the only way to get kara-uppercutted. Eventually you will eat it, and I personally don’t understand why it should do that much more damage than similar examples.