Do Sagat’s Ultra.
It’s 13 hits total.
The knee is maybe 4 hits then the first uppercut is about 4 hits as well which leaves the last uppercut which would be 5 hits if I’m correct.
So maybe not 6-7 hits but either way the bulk of Sagat’s damage on his Ultra is on the last uppercut.
Sagat can be improved by just reducing his damage on his normals and making low tiger shots block low.
Fuck it, they should just give Sagat Gill’s Resurrection Super Art as his second ultra and be done with it.
C’mon Capcom, you know you want to.
Reduce damage on his normals
Fix j mp
Change the st hk hitbox
Take juggle away from f+hk, but leave it as a knockdown
Take away 50 health
Give him back his cr hp from cvs2
Fix ultra in the corner
Give cr mk more range than st lk
Wow…I thought the guy that made this thread was ACTUALLY joking…but doing it in a not so obvious way like some other improvement threads. It turns out he was actually being sincere when he made his hostile reply. If this forum handed out “retard of the year award” then you CERTAINLY would be a nominee for it…and hell…you’d get my vote.
Sagat is BROKEN, everyone knows that. He doesn’t need MASSIVE nerfs, just that roundhouse into roundhouse into ULTRA- i mean WTF?! Second, the trade into ultra sucks too- I mean, Ryu has a sick ultra juggle game- but his ultra does FAR less damage.
I think if Sagat uses his ultra in the corner, it should connect with all its blows however- it makes sense, but the strength of the ultra needs to be cut by 100-130 damage to level the roundhouse, roundhouse, ultra juggle that does like 580 damage?!?!?
I cant see why he has such huge HP (with def taken into account) aswell, I mean, he should surely be equal to ryu/ken/etc?
The fact that you require Shag-hat to be IMPROVED in SSF4 really goes to show that you have NO skill in this game…and quite frankly…suck balls. Play as Gen or Sim, or one of the female characters for a few weeks, and then see how it feels when people want the most broken character in the game BUFFED UP!!!
Let’s give him hair.
Ok, but it has to be a bad hair cut or have male balding patterns. Remember it has to be a nerf, lol.
You must be relieved to hear that sagat is gettiing better eh?
Just because his character is strong doesn’t mean he should be punished for connecting something big in the corner.
btw the statement:
“Everyone is getting better” is just a crowd pleaser… i mean seriously…
I mean i didnt played the other SF titles for a long period but i dont believe that for example ryu got worse from SF2 to SSF2 or that he got worse from SSF2 to SSF2T …
Like some guys in here already said, Sagat will get some fixes and maybe 1-2 new tricks but lower tier characters like … uhm… Claw maybe get a dmg or hp boost and 1-2 new tricks just to keep up with the high tiers in SSF2
I can’t remember saying anything like that.
I don’t give two flying fucks about Sagat gameplay wise in terms of getting better or worse. If he sucked I would abandon him as I have stated many many times.
Ok then, you’re not relieved.
You may be right but it still worries me how they’re gonna balance the game. First they say seth will be cheaper (arcade seth or both? who knows…) now sagat will be improved. They can add a lot of features and upgrades but if they fuck up the balance in ssf4 then they’d ruin the whole game. Best thing to do is have faith in Capcom.
Ono did say that the balance changes the devs wanted to make go hand in hand with the fans so we’ll see if that was BS or not.
Hair = confidence…
Confident Sagat… NO IT WOULD MAKE HIM MORE POWERFUL!
I can see it now… Sagat packing a shit-eating grin that even Bison himself couldnt beat.
kara throw off of f+lk or f+hk. i mean ken has his right?
I’m going to post a serious reply, actually. To balance Sagat:
And there you have it: A much more balanced Sagat.
Does that mean Ryu and Balrog lose their ultra trades as well?
Theres dont do the same amount of damage- doesnt Ryu share the weakest ultra in the game with gen and sim? And you cant say rogs connects half the time, Im gonna actually test the combo dmg and see which is best. I dont think you should allow any character to “trade into ultra” though- I mean, the guy who gets punished has actually got his input out in time to trade- hes taken a chunky BH, TU, SRK- isnt that enough? lol.
But either way- I wouldnt be too bothered if the TU trade into ultra was still prevalent…it sucks…but it isnt game ruining. Id rather they fix the other issues really, or give the cast answers to sagats questions.
I thought this was a serious post?