Sabin SF4 Japan Q/A - match of the day: Barfights II

haha damn right im pissed, every time i lose to a rufus i get annoyed as shit. all that work until i get caught really kills me inside. im starting to think this is 6.5/3.5 for rufus unless theres some option selects im missing out on.

the guile i played for 3rd/4th place finals is actually a really good yokohama guile player. kim and ranix play him a lot he has a face O_O as his card name just like how theres someone with the same name on SRK lol.

hes pretty good! and he usually beats me when we play just cause he can outturtle me. however in the trf match we played he got impatient cause i was ahead in the fireball game and forced a jump over and over and i won. wish all our matches were like that.

whos that

nice location

i doubt its united states of free money. i wasnt the only one that went to japan. lots of people are coming back with that japan level up experience. justin, marn, floe, valle all have that japan power up and they are playing more “japanese” as you can see, their game is a lot tighter now. Plus, sim struggles in a lot of matchups. I can lose just the same even after coming back from Tokyo. I’m getting better but at the same time I can see why Sim has forever been C tier…he has a lot of exploitable things.

I haven’t played nemo/nuki but i played this Yokohama chun 3 games at Kim’s arcade. I couldnt beat him once. Midscreen is ok vs him, just have to watch out for random jumps random hazanshus. In the corner its really bad. Instant overhead is a bitch but you can fierce it in his recovery. I have to be careful of her focus, Chunli players do a lot of focus fishing (my fierce) into ultra/super. I think its range specific though. The biggest thing that fucked me over in this match was…

if i focus fish chunli and shes charged thats GGPO, she can ultra/super my backdash as a free punish…on block. that really really sucks…i cant focus fish if shes charged up. =/ because of this alone i think this is 6/4 chun

zangitan (the best gief ive ever played btw) posts about his strats every day on mixi…and a lot of the top players have blogs/videos etc. i dont know the breakdown of how much it was talked about in person/blogs/net etc but its out there.

they translated what i wrote on 2ch before SRK deleted the thread, lol. It’s still on google cache somewhere.

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I’m glad that someone sees through the Japan myths and “asians owning americans.” It’s only cause they have a greater infrastructure than us, straight up. Imagine if Sanford Kelly was here in Japan instead of me? I dont have as much as execution potential as he does, not by a long shot.

probably not Japan is random as fuck, you can win a tourney one day and get peaced out in the first round the next. everyone is that good and one game is that random. i hope i make it to the finals though

there aint nothing i havent seen back at home my dude…i havent played that many games vs ken, it seems like everyone dropped him. and the ones i played are on the level of urs/drchaos/sanfords. keep ur game up man, i see you beasting on youtube lol

thank you man, i hope i can find this in japan since i dont wanna wait for shipping

being in the corner - problem. makes me guess vs ex tatsu/grab which sux.
jumping in at max range vs sim = sux since if they dont stick out anything, my b. rh whiffs. this is solved by using stand rh though which gives ryu hell

so a ryu standing outside st. fierce range, throwing fireballs, when i yoga tower he edges up and jumps at max distance is tough to deal with.

ryu with full super stacked = tough to deal with since he can throw out DP’s at random and get rewarded with fullscreen supers, so this means random DP is worth it and really safe, punish obviously aint that good for sim on a blocked DP unless hes close and i have super

uhh i rep east coast/empire. also no man is a island. do you think i got better playing on xbl/scrubs? hardly. i have good comp at home, the best in the USA imo so fall back

that was Ichi.

also i wish i was permanently high lol

2ch can stay mad, rofl

not all at a ridiculously high level but avg scrub is better than avg us guy for sure. Like I said theyre totally beatable. I still stand by my statement that were at most a month behind (two maybe lol.) Thier tops vs ours, considering if we were all in the same location playing.

Tokido told me everyone reads 2ch. so the people posting might be top players or scrubs, lol YJDK.

Kim1234 by far gives me the most trouble with dictator compared to the japanese, lolol

crazy rape lol, but i need the viper experience and strong exp fighting vs rushdown

watch valle vs marn from WCW for tips on that match.
basically it comes down to smart spacing, neutral jumping over fireballs a lot, edging closer torwards them with small jump divekicks to close the gap lol. not unwinnable by any means. but then again im not a rufus player so keep that in mind.

damage scaling
not worth the damage output for a few extra reps of loop, and the knockdown is more important anyway than the extra few percent of damage

ok i will email u if im game sir!

lol yeb would get owned hed try to play on console and japan would be like, “wtf is that?” lol unless he goes to desoras house.

so yeah recent update
after trf and beasting with ranix in roppongi irl
went to yokohama and played vs kims community of players.
they are quite good, but my impression was they are a bit behind bigbox…but still really good.

i couldnt really beat zangitan really, i must have went like 2-8 or something retarded lol. best gief in the world in my eyes haha.

vs chun player as i wrote before because of focus punishes i lost every game.
vs master akuma player there, i didnt lose once.
vs master honda, i didnt lose once either (i think anti-akimo/honda strats work well now!)
vs yuuru ryu he beat me a few games but i had winning streak overall.
vs their master sagat, i didnt lose vs him either.
of course kirisuto still owns me but he wasnt there that night.
tokido was there randomly hes playing sagat now and has a 73% win ratio. claims hes just messing around. i played him 2x didnt win either.

but overall i think i beat the respect out of yokohama players, they were all really nice guys from what i gather though. and they ALL know about me from 2ch now lol.

tuesday/wed went to bigbox.
tuesday i played ponchan…i think i beat him 1 out of 4. really impressive sagat with godlike kara fb/dp control…cheap.
wed i got fucked up at bigbox by acrevenger, random gouki player there too. its toughhhhhhh out here sometimes, like i said i can beast one day and get raped the next its all the same lolz

still stagnant on BP/win ratios… 59% 28K BP…im stuck at a wall.
once u get to 30k and or/master, beacuse of how the BP system works, its hard to level up above that.

hence why u see so many players at my BP level or slightly higher than that.

zako bakari imo

all scrubs

shiit I was so hyped bout yeb I forgot Gen IS a console char

Hey sabin have you fought many claws in japan? How do you deal with claw with sim, seems like a challenging matchup.

does china not have a big arcade scene like Japan?

They do; they play mostly KOF though.

Hey Art hows it going out there? also Skye Honda owned my Cammy super free…imma run it back tho fuck it lol.

Yo Art you a savage! Got any gief vs sagat/akuma tips?

Sabin,

is it possible to elaborate on what kim1234 is doing differently than other bison players?

Have you had a chance to play Head Press or Kuma?

Thanks!

A bit unrelated to Street Fighter IV, but I am curious. How is Tekken 6: BR doing in the Japanese arcades?

It’s number one in Japan.

haha, open up a can of Campbell’s Option Selects!!!

This thread is great, kind of like reading a nice manga.

read through most of this. great stuff sabin
when are you gonna come back to the states and start scraping? :slight_smile:

Is mixi a blog or something? Looks like you can’t join it unless you get invited which means we can’t view those zangief strats.

mixi is a japan social networking site like myspace/facebook etc. gotta register.

lol. I do enjoy this thread though, it’s nice to get insight on what goes on over there, thanks Art.

would be nice if you could record the fight
vs sako
i think this will be hella excited

i plan to take a trip to ny in january but im not sure yet (its a money question )
do you think we could meet up and play some rounds if i get to ny ??

Sabin, how many matches have you played in Japan as Ryu? Learned/observed anything interesting?

Nah, don’t order that online. I just wanted to show you an example of what you need to get. You can prolly pick that up in any PC store.

I asked a question, you may have missed it - http://forums.shoryuken.com/showpost.php?p=7424946&postcount=1018

Yo art besides like nemo and nuki any other chun giving you trouble? and does she have advantage on sim?