whats your character. just wrote about this in the sagat forum this morning.
Thats awesome. I wish they would go to more tournaments so I could see them in action. I was afraid Kuma quit since I haven’t heard any news about him in a while except that he might play at God’s Garden but didn’t.
I play ryu.
a medium level ryu that have trouble getting better.
Actually you can land it after a lvl2 focus attack, a blocked fierce SRK, ken’s tatsu, blocked blanka ball, blocked medium/fierce headbutt (both honda and balrog), any of balrog’s ex dash punches that you can see coming, after 90% of blocked ultras and there are literally other 100 setups. You just gotta know them and react quick…that’s why it’s a good deterrent
…must be RTS mentality…or probably if you can’t land an ultra off a traded srk the char just isn’t for you
or you know, different players prefer different playstyles.
:bluu:
Sorry for derailing thread further.
this is only for sim vs bison btw
i didnt play him i was too busy trying to hit on sagat girl
lots of sf4 players come from other games, but since this game is getting really big now they dropped everything to play sf4…i play multiple games but i dropped every other game mainly for sf4. i dont know why the others quit. im really sad that inoue stopped playing, he was my cvs2 hero and my homie when he came to the us.
hard for me to ask cause i dont speak japanese, hope someone else reads this and can ask her!
yeah they all play like this. playing in japan i see why gief is S tier. i cant believe when i was in the US, i thought gief was shit lol, but theres no real gief players here besides ultradavid, maybe rashaan.
why? its just falling into line with the japanese tiers. honestly, sf4 is a game where u can pick who u like mostly and worry about the tiers later.
nope i dont know
im not gonna be back in the usa for months, i mean if i get back then sure.
as for viper vs abel, whos better, i mean…i dont know really what to say, theyre both solid chars. if youre trying to ask whos better so u can main them, u should really play the char who fits ur playstyle, not whos top tier…just IMO. i mained sim cause i liked him and he fit my playstyle perfectly, even if hes close to the bottom of the tier list.
only dumb teleports get punished.
example, after i get knocked down and try to teleport out of vortex mixup, if he has ultra thats a free demon or sweep.
if i mash teleport on wakeup, hell just dash forward and punish me.
if i teleport at him raw, stand jab, then he can dash in front of me or behind me and combo.
basically stupid/scared teleports get punished
well after playing kirisato like 9 games in a row, i guess i can elaborate on this…
if he gets a jump in on you and you ahve enough time to block but not to antiair, best idea usually is to IAT backwards, keep iating backwards until he jumps at a reckless angle (enough to stand rh him, ex upflame, j strong him.)
if he keeps staying on u, IAT into close j. strong is really good vs rufus divekicks. basically u have to zone him out the whole fight and this is really really difficult. if he gets in on u, dont mash grab, try to block divekicks and be patient, wait for a opening. this leaves u open to throws but sometimes, u have no choice but to take the throw instead of losing 70%. i think iyo knows stuff that i dont kno win this match for sure.
girl sagat didnt make it out of pools @ gods garden unfortunately =/
to answer you both i expect someone to pick a console char and me looking real free and then niggas saying “he came back from japan and hes still free!?!?!”
see above
gogo sebiel does!
haha thank you
prob cause tekken is easier to smash buttons with and more fun to casual players at a low level? honestly i dont know.
not saying sf is more complicated than tekken btw just a random guess.
theres no stimulus package
seth vs sim imo 5-5
sim outzones seth, seth is better in close, played this match from both sides.
also no im not on xbl havent been on at all…since japan.
most godlike post in this thread imo
nice to know that everyone isnt a hater.
… yeah we lost because i taunted. the gay ass restart never happened…get a clue
haha nooooo
too general of a question for me to answer
actually most of the top players go to the 50 yen spots ie bigbox, 50 cent sf4
thats not what i said i just said in order of difficulty for me to fight…i have losing streaks vs all those guys lol
okonomiyaki = gdlk
staying for 3 months
would like to stay here for a few years though
lol he raped my backdash with ex green glove every time.
poked through my standing fierce with psychic ex green glove so im scared to press a button
then i think, ok hes gonna green glove but he doesnt at all then he fucks me up, lol. they really good at taking risks with ex green glove even if its unsafe, it hits. well he was raping all the players in the room at one point so i dont feel bad for losing to him.
the games i won i pretty much had to work extra hard for the wins and they were by a pixel, lol.
OH YEAH
kim said he checked the footage from shibuya sportsland and its unwatchable - too choppy from my phone. i really, really need a decent camera.
Art you can’t come back to the US till you made some progression with Ms. Tiger Uppercut :lol:
Ok I got this one.
Gama no Abura
Nagoya Street Battle. [media=youtube]wUOOFsmaHQQ"[/media] guy.
Cab
Main TRF MC. “Are? Akimosan?” That guy heh.
Also did Godsgarden ladies. And the pre-nationals 5on.
Yoshio
#2 TRF MC. Does ST and CVS2 events also. For down-to-earth but still entertaining probably the best.
Momiage
TRF tourney chief. Does greeting and farewell for TRF tourneys sometimes regular mc’ing if nobody else wants to.
Kagecchi
I think MC’ed Godsgarden. Might have done SBO main event, too. Probably MCs 3S stuff I don’t know.
nohoho i <3 you
also guys dont forget trf stream tonight! usually starts around 7PM JST. im gonna try to get there around 630 or so for warmup and casuals. they usually stream the casuals before/after the tourney too.
http://www.stickam.jp/profile/momisage/ - but i know they stream from both cabinets i dont have the link for both, but thats the link for the tourney cabinet.
I believe that’s 3AM here. Jeebus, so late :shake:.
19:00-16:00=3:00 AM 
Not that I don’t like watching sim/art/us play, but do you know if any big names will show up? GM’s or Masters and up?
Hav goes so hard!
Nicca does not care!!!
see ya Saturday!
Wow so 7pm jst=eastern time??
No, pacific. It’s 6am for you guys, which is better actually cause you can just wake up early instead of staying up ridiculously late.
what is this “stimulus package” you speak of in the US? i guess it’s money won from tournies and money matches? how much can a top player expect to make a month?
With those arcade heads spending all that time in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber it seems like the west could remain doomed even when it comes to Dash.
If SRK were all to make a pushing initiative towards levelling up, I’d like to ask what you make of the possibility of progression through online play.
With the playing hours and playstyle/character variety they wrack up out there day to day, should that really be a problem for us to keep up with?
With Online available, we all have access to unlimited matchmaking at potentially 24/7 basis. It’s given that a big majority of the overall online herd are content to play like crap and repeat tactic loops to best exploit the properties created by latency and never learn much in terms of solid play in the name of getting a big score.
It can be said everyone loves the luxury of the online excuse these days, but I’m wondering about the weigh-up of arguement when it comes to latency.
On one hand there are many users here who will assert there are no excuseable or illegitimate defeats, there’s no reason any ‘random’ moves should not be blocked by the better player and that anyone who beat you with any consistentcey online (or at all), whatever the means, was straight-up the better player.
To the contrary, I’ve heard stories of guys having met up offline with a more ‘random’ online contact (who’d usually have the edge in online sets) and gone to trample them in the offline casuals.
Regardless of this, the masses are not the main subject, this is SRK. We have dozens of more dedicated players on every character forum displaying their online tags. Connections may soil on things like execution, defense and reaction windows (and god knows what else) but between competant players it should be enough to at least get familiar with and feel out all the ranges and approaches in every matchup, and work on creating new tactics, mixups and zoning styles despite the problems.
If we all got serious with contacts and invested time with the variety online, could we still bridge the gap that way? Do you think online is good enough for this?
As an initiative for catching up with their scene, would you say SF4 online is a potential resource or a dead end?
yeah… online play will never be a medium for that kind of serious training because it has too many variable’s that simply can’t be controlled. it’s very very difficult to tell when something happened a certain way because of lag or because of a trick that a character can do.
i’ll use a easy example from my main to illustrate my point: ken’s ex tatsu leaves him at +1 frame adv. on hit, which sets up for some nice healthy mix-up where if done correctly your opponent has 2 options that are viable: block or use a reversal with invincibility on start-up. now a LOT of players like to spam throws after being hit by tatsu’s to avoid being thrown… but in this setup if they do that they eat another combo, however i have played sessions with friends less than 50 miles away where this setup gets shat on by random lag and or my own mis-timing (i don’t know which because i’m online) and i get thrown out of my cr. lk, this leads my opponent to the impression that his throw is a good idea, and he mistimed it in my earlier attempts.
If you understand frame data then this won’t be a problem. Meaning you would recognize that what you did to Ken wasn’t really legit.
And if you don’t desire to understand the frame data then I question your dedication to the game.
IF dash makes a lobby system, and improved netcode to get good connection across the US, playing online can bridge the gap.
Imagine if dash had a 10-player lobby, and lets say every night our pros get together (lets use EVO top 8 for example). That instantly becomes our big box. Any mid-level player who steps into that lobby steps into USA version of hyperbolic time chamber.
You gotta remember that big box in Tokyo is not a hyperbolic time chamber for Momochi, Daigo, etc. It’s just a regular-time training ground. It’s only a time chamber for Sabin because when he first arrived he was much worse than the regulars there.
So in the USA bigbox, the pros will play each other and get better and better but at a slower rate than if some random enters, but the gap would eventually be bridged. So SF4 online is a potential resource but not in its current incarnation.