And Gouken is a fun character to play but the better the competition gets, the more his weaknesses become glaring. His weaknesses are too huge against great players. Gouken is the scrub killer.
Played on psn a couple of times at my friend’s and I can tell see the decrease in Ryu players. Same goes for AE for PC
He wasn’t comparing Ryu to Gouken. Look at those combos climaxter listed. Those are Ryu combos and I don’t even think gouken can do the combos he listed.
Yes, I was dude. Shinebox was correct. Did you even bother to look at my avatar? You’re complaining about having some primo shit that my character can never do. My post, if you took the time to read it, was a list of things Ryu does on the regular. Gouken’s buffs this time around are lackluster so he will remain in the dregs, meanwhile Dan is looking pretty strong now. WTF?
My apologies then.
Player > Character.
Hmmm…ever play two equal players, one with Akuma and one with Gouken. Laughable.
Increase U1 damage, Cr. MK back to Super, Far St. MP cancel
id love to know why u guys are complaining so much about the c.mk, my only problem with the new one is that i cant combo 2xc.mp, c.mk after a SP in some chars I could. For footsies it is the same for the Ryus that arent trying to win using only c.mk the entire round. And it still is good to dodging (actually the problem is more on the opponent’s side than on Ryu’s side [Im looking at you Viper]). It needed a hurtbox nerf; the move is fast, have long range, is quite safe. It had to have a weak spot, now it will trade or lose if the opponent predict it. Its fine dudes, Ryu have its problems but they are not related with the c.mk’s active frame stolen or with its new hurtbox.
My PP have gone way done since AE, wonder if its the c.mk nerf or ‘improved lag’ and I am a much better player than 2 month ago.
tough game !
Hmmm…Ever heard of Bullcat?!
Ryu needs
-cr. mk back
-escape tatsu(y leave Ken n Sakura with it if everyone cant have it so dumb)
-super trap back
-Hp shoryu from vanilla
-mule kick(ex wall bounce to anything) mk version +3 on hit n block, all rest 0, startup 3f
-trade to both ultras fully from shoryu trade.
U2 fully connect like Goukens
then he’ll be a good character super trap not really needed but all the Ryu hate, he deserves all of these, plus without him sf would be nothing he deserves these buffs, lord knows he does. Then just buff every character up to this lvl.
hahaha none of the above is going to happen 
- I think cr.mk should be put back.
- Escape tatsu was stupid to begin with, but you should be able to use the air tatsu for offensive purposes on projectile heavy characters
- Super trap was broken
- HP shoryu from vanilla would be awesome to get back but it was so broken
- You’ll see mule kick in sfxtk
- You can trade ultra right now, just from a lp dp
- Gouken’s is a shin shoryu, Ryu’s is a metsu, isn’t metsu > shin?
Is this not a wishlist? Escape tatsu is stupid how? If Ken n Sakura have it why not Ryu? I think he needs it. Super trap was broken, but wishlist, remember? I’d very much “wish” he had it, wouldn’t you? I know the mule kick is in SfxT, but two different games. He should have it if Ken has his f-mk. Hp shoryu wasn’t anywhere near broken trade to both ultras fully from Hp shoryu trade should be in. If balrog n Sagat have it Ryu should as well. If Ryu’s Metsu is better, all the more reason for it to be more useful, no? Sagat gets buffed back to top tier because of cry babies, why not Ryu?
Ken doesn’t have an ultra that flies accross the screen and juggles. If your asking for some stop saying another character has it, because there are several things Ryu has that other characters don’t.
Yeah. My boy Takinflight beat him 5-1 in mirror matches. So?
all that would do is make people turtle more…
BINGO!!
Ryu is still better than Ken and one of the best characters in the game regardless if he doesn’t have the same hitbox on his C.MK. Ryu has faster walk speed, more powerful linking normals [Arguably the best in the game!], Has the most versitility in comboing into his FULL ultra [No other character has it easier/better] and on top of that all his shoryuken’s are better than Ken’s [faster] and lets not compare fireball game cause there is no comparison. You can Zone with the best of them with Ryu [his specialty] or you can put on the pressure when needed.
I don’t know where people get this Ken is better than Ryu from. All of a sudden just cause he got his C.MK nerfed [So did Ken, lulz]. In reality, it isn’t even a big nerf, you can barely tell the difference. Whoopdey do Ken can stand jab into sweep combo, so what Ryu has BEEN doing that and more he can even crouch jab to sweep combo which ken can not do. Wow, so ken can combo is cr. strong to his low forward, lololol, Ryu been doing that and MORE.
Hardest part of fighting Ken is his kara throw and his semi-ambiguous cross up game with late air tatsus etc… His other ground game stuff is frankly pretty predictable and seems less solid than Ryu’s. His zone game is pretty crappy. Ryu is better because he can rush down solidly and zone solidly.
Absolutely. Ryu is more balanced.