Regardless of what else she can do, why would they make a system of two bars are neccessary to FADC, and then allow one character to not have that rule, everything else she has is unique to her, but everyone has FADCs.
Please keep assuming what you want.
Wrong. Everyone that CANCELS a move with a FA has to use meter, so does Viper. That’s not what’s happening though. She super jump cancels the move, THEN uses a FADC to dash forward. The canceling of the move was already done with the super jump. She was given the ability to cancel moves with various techniques other than focus cancelling. So again, there’s no reason to think that one particular cancel is any different.
Are you saying she FADCs the super jump? If you are then you are still saying she can FADC without using meter. She is FADCing for free regardless, and I really doubt that she was designed to be able to exploit something like that. Its uses mp+mk so there is a FADC somewhere in there, and its not costing her anything.
Yeah that’s what I’m saying. I just think there’s no possible way that the designers could have overlooked such an obvious thing.
Isn’t FADCing a super jump relatively new?
I’m not sure exactly when it started getting used, but I know the Japanese were doing it before the console version ever came out.
Does she still flash yellow? I bet it isn’t an EX cancel because she’s canceling a jump, not an attack.
No flash. So the game isn’t recognizing it as an actual FADC.
I think I’m gonna bounce outta this thread…the same shit is being said way to many times. People like UltraDavid making contradicting statements coupled with terrible avatars gross me out too much.
3 things need to change. Fix ex tatsu from glitching up so often. Jab shoryuken shouldn’t hit as high as it does, make it more recovery too, that move is too broken. Scale his damage.
Don’t talk about fixing Ryu when you don’t know what needs to be fixed…how’s that for your holy voice?
Oh look Batman my DP traded… WHO’S GOT SOMETHING FOR ME???
j.HK >c.HP >HK Dankukyaku = 320dmg
He didn’t contradict himself, he stated a fact and an opinion, he said ryu has a alot of ways to make big damage, and then said, he(as in ultra’s opinion) doesn’t like that, as well as saying that it should be minimized across the roster somewhat.
this thread needs to be closed before it starts into a huge flamefest.
Well, its not that bad, most of us are civil.
SO FAR :lol:
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Um, kind of sad actually. I always feel a little bad when someone knows all about me, even down to what inside-joke avatar I had half a year or more ago, while I’ve never even seen his name before (or at least don’t remember). And it’s even worse when that guy also can’t parse out differences like the one between not a big deal and not perfect. Hope you get better soon, buddy.
That’s cool though, I’ll leave this thread alone.
Ryu’s ultra is versatile but has been balanced by its low damage (273-398), where it does almost half the damage of other character’s ultras. If it did 500-600 damage like many of the other characters ultras then it would be unbalanced, but atm its fine for the most part. It’s ridiculous to want to lower its damage even more - it already does less than his super if not fully charged, hell most characters do more damage than that with a simple jump in combo.
Hell I could even see the point (though I would disagree) with someone who says its damage should be increased, considering he needs to spend 2-3 bars to perform those setups and they usually end up in considerable damage scale reduction. Other characters like rog and rufus have way easier methods of juggling into their ultra without needing to FADC or spend a single bar or have any considerable damage scaling, yet their ultras still do 500+ damage.
Yes, Ultra off trade is silly. Trade should put you in a non-ultra-juggle state (where you can be juggled but not with an Ultra), this should apply to the entire cast. And yes, these threads on every gaming forum almost always turn into “buff my character and nerf everyone else”.
nvm.
Ryu doesn’t need any buffs. He’s fucking great as is.
Some people don’t like the trading into ultra shenanigans… I would agree, in the sense that shoryu should be more reliable anti-air. Give his shoryus more invincibilty, and voila, no more trading. It’s a nerf!
And people falling out of EX tatsu is pretty dumb as well. I suppose that should be fixed too.
That’s it, really.