Ryu changes in SSFIV thread

Ken Sucks

We can all agree on Ken being ass. :lol:

That’s just because they gave ryu ken’s speed and jab srk.

lol oh shit, dragon punch dash cancel into shin shoryuken…

insta-death

i think they should just add 1 move to ryu. and thats his forward medium kick from the alpha series. make it invinsible on start up so he can kick through fireballs. lol ryu would become 10x more beast with that

No not really.

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I figure you were mostly joking about that right?

I know he isn’t top tier, but his Kara throw game is freaking insane. I play against a really good Ken regularly (this guy is one of the better GG players in the country so you know his execution is crazy good)…and between him NEVER dropping the most powerful combos in ken’s arsenal, and him having a devastating kara throw game…its a powerful combination.

Ken is hard to use well, and his image isn’t helped by all the scrubs who don’t know how to use him correctly.

Let ken get within kara range and he rapes faces.

Just my personal and potentially flawed opinion.

Dude, this isn’t 3s, just mashing jab/short with most characters will stop all raw kara throws for free, and even if he manages to grab you, you can just crouch tech.
Having the best kara throw in the game barely makes Ken any better.

I love reading threads on how to improve one of the most balanced bastards in the game. May as well give him double fireballs, give his srk a downward kick overhead as he’s coming down, Ultra hits 100% all the time in combos, 15 frame links, flight capabilities on tatsu, 7 overheads, front throw will juggle, air grab, aaaaaand 2 frame shun goku satsu like move…that does 400 damage, just so it balances out.

cool story bro. lmao.

we all know if you just do this it totally beats out whaver where talking about.

I love reading people’s posts who come into this thread for absolutely no reason, only to bitch because they haven’t read any of the other posts in this thread, and assume that all the Ryu mains just want to overpower the character.

Yeah sorry I don’t mash.

  1. Aren’t these just more exceptions ? It didn’t look like you knew the matchup, I suspect that is the only reason these exceptions happen, in the long run they don’t mean shit.

  2. Isn’t an advantage based on game mechanics, the toolset of the character & frame data (priority/recovery) significant in the long term, not the player ?

  3. You play Ryu, Your one of the best & most respected players in the USA & you’re telling us that Ryu doesn’t have any kind of advantage over most of the cast…for real ?

ick. I can’t see Parries working anymore, especially with online and a blocking system that is pretty much Absolute Guard.

i smell a troll @wangyu

Ha. Nice, but never did i bitch. ive read all the posts here pretty much and while some are on point “fix this whiff and balance this stat”, others are just ridiculous. Ryu IS balanced, and capcom took their time with him. It just sucks that they didnt give others the same treatment. My earlier posts states that “remove dp trade ultra” and just adjust everyone else to balance the game. For ryu to have 5-5 matches in most matchups and then abel gief is 7-3 is stupid.

Sorry, but no way.

sorry but yes way.

Yeah, I guess I forgot that Falcon Kick cross up -> Target Combo xx Space Opera Symphony is miles harder than c.MK xx Shoryuken xx FADC xx Metsu Hadoken. How silly of me. It’s also harder to hit confirm and easier to accidentally burn meter with, isn’t it? Oh, shit…wait a second.

Neither is excessively difficult, but majority of the posters here would have people believe that Rufus’s setups are rocket science while Ryu’s are brain dead easy. Rufus’s primary setup is at least meterless, and, therefore, usable whenever an opening presents itself and you have ultra meter, whereas Ryu’s requires, y’know, an opening, ultra meter, and half a super meter. It also affords you more opportunities to abuse EX Messiah Kick, or, if your opponent has a jump-in fetish, EX Snake Strike, which does about 75% of the damage that Ryu’s ultra does. For one EX stock :rolleyes:.

Anyway, the point I’m trying to prove is that most of the lower tier characters need to be buffed, and upper tier characters could use some minor tweaks, but no one needs any significant nerfs.