maybe ppl should learn not to jump at ryu with ultra
Ryu is the most balanced char in SF IV. They should first bring the other chars on his level before they touch him.
This is true. Instead they should continue to stay on the ground and get out footsied by Ryu’s Godlike crouching foward xx hado, one of the best pokes in the game and potentially eat a super instead.
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^hehe ty.
I predicted headstomp on waking up Dictator ASSUMING (stupidly) that this game made sense, so I neutral jumped - EX Tatsu at the peak and he then pulled out EX Headstomp which went up through to my head and beat it out. Err… Okay.
S’my only complaint.
fake fire ball may be fun to see
or they just can bait that out and punish him with a counter sweep:yawn:
I see this requested so many times. If you can tell me why Ryu needs another mind-game tool I’ll be happy to concede, but untill then please refrain from asking for this.
WOOOOOooooOOOOoooOooOOOOOOooosshHHHHSHSSSHSHH!!! Went right over your head didn’t it? My point was that he has superior footsies and you’re almost just as likely to get eaten on the ground as you are jumping at him from the air. Not everyone has an amazing counter-poke answer for ryu’s cr. foward.
Either jump back and round house, unless you’re in the corner. Or when it’s close to hitting dash foward or back and bnb punish. Once you start punishing headstomps ol Dic will be pretty scared to use them.
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Yes. Maybe we should jump at the guy with an anti air ultra link instead of, I don’t know-- baiting the c.mk and punishing accordingly. Yes. Let’s do that.
Jesus Christ people.
The point was his footsies are superior to most of the cast. And he’ll zone you the fuck out with his fire balls. If you don’t have amazing footsies that can compete you have to jump in some time.
I really don’t know what to tell you this point.
Akuma, Chun Li, Balrog, Honda(to an extent), Ken, Rose, Bison, Blanka, Viper, Seth, and even FUCKING VEGA, have a way to beat out his footsies. If you’re running into the Medium kick, it’s because he’s hitting it faster than you are, and you’re not countering accordingly.
You’re arguing that JUMPING IN– is smarter than dealing with him on the ground.
Not to mention PAGES ago, you gave this excuse like “I’m all jacked up with finals and shit.”
This is fucking ridiculous. When you lose, you lose. 90-100% of the time it’s not because of your character, it’s because you couldn’t outsmart your opponent, or you made a stupid mistake. EVERY FUCKING CHARACTER in the game has a COUNTER for that fucking medium kick.
Even guile, who’s EVERY FUCKING MOVE is SHUT DOWN by medium kicks, has a COUNTER FOR IT.
KEN’s medium kick and Akuma’s beat Ryu’s out cleanly. You want to ban there moves too? What about the Air fireball? “It’s really stupid how you can’t just JUMP THROUGH Air fireballs.” I mean, why can’t you? Let’s make that happen. What about Chun Li’s sweep and c. lp and mp? Wow, those are pretty good pokes. Let’s just fuck those up too?
Bison’s short, when timed right(which by the way, is the SAME WAY Ryu’s c.MK works against Balrog, because if he times it wrong, Ryu get sweeped.), beats out c.mk.
How the fuck are people complaining about these stupid things. These are the fucking basics of the game.
Ryu has only one 7-3 matchup. Against Dan. AGAINST FUCKING DAN.
God damn it people.
I have an idea. How about the next casual session I go and ask Alex Valle, “Hey, when I’m playing as Bison, Ryu’s crouching medium kick is hard to beat.” You know what he’s gonna tell me? He’s going to tell me to stop running into it like an idiot, and shake his head that I wasn’t smart enough to figure that out myself.
" Fucking something " is my palabras fucking bitches.:cybot:
That way everyone has to turtle because almost anything they do can be punished by super and ultra, from attempting a crossup to attempting wakeup pressure, to block strings…
At the same time alot of their moves will be extremely hard to punish and they’ll have really easy combos to perform because their normals will recover so fast.
Nah, akuma is about the most balanced character in the game. His ultra and super hurt but they don’t have braindead setups. He’s very very strong potentially but has a clear weakness, we should balance things so everyone is more like hima nd less like ryu or sagat
I’m done with this thread. Really. I am. This is all basic shit guys.
Really? No wake up pressure on Ryu? No concept of baiting? Mindgames? No idea how to beat a shoryuken on wakeup by just fucking BLOCKING? And AKUMA is the most balanced character in the game? Fucking really?
yeah okay. Have fun.
ppl dont think at all, end of story.
The problem is that these guy are basing there judgment on random online matches. The random Ryu players you face online don’t know what the words “fear” or “respect” mean in the context of Street Fighter. But what they do know is “SRK IS TEH GOOD”
**Really? No wake up pressure on Ryu? No concept of baiting? Mindgames? No idea how to beat a shoryuken on wakeup by just fucking BLOCKING? And AKUMA is the most balanced character in the game? Fucking really?
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Read frame data please.
What exactly does frame data have to do with what he’s talking about?