imo he doesnt need an ultra 2 that is good,because of the duribility of the first.thought it was just going to be for show. feel free to correct me if my thinking is wrong
haha bruce is funny and all you guys letting him get you mad.
I see your point, but it’s not like he gets his one U2 set up ON TOP of his many U1 setups. When he picks U2, his U1 setups basically don’t exist. It’s not like he’s getting an extra setup.
Its not that big of a deal if he has one good way to hit this ultra. Any other way outside of focus attacking, punishing, and hado fadcing cancelling will deal out crap damage. Is that really that bad?
This is from the recent dev blog
It depends upon how much damage his UII does. From what I hear, though, it causes huge damage and having such an easily comboable setup just seems a little much. With the same Hado FADC combo, poor Kens’ UII REQUIRES the opponent to be standing for it to hit, and I very much doubt that restriction will be placed upon Ryus’ UII. Ryu just always ends up with the best everything.
the game isn’t even out yet and people are already crying ryu’s the best at everything once again.
hmmm That is true. In the same dev blog I quoted above it did state that the game was balanced around him. With that being said its hard to give Ryu anything bad when you are trying to make everyone a 5-5 match up against him.
I am pretty sure with the timing on that you will probably have to be very fast and there will probably be a little leniency with characters with larger hit boxes.
As we all know, Ultras have been nerfed in SSSF4. Akuma, Gief, and Blanka tied with the most damaging Ultras in vanilla, now Akuma and Gief’s Ultra 1 are confirmed to do 510 damage in Super. And that’s probably as good as it gets in SSF4 as far as the most damaging Ultras, and I bet that’s what Ryu’s Metsu Shoryuken will also do. Going by that, cr. forward, hado, FADC, Ultra 2 would do 497 damage. Of course I’m just guessing and nothing about Ryu’s Ultra 2 is confirmed but I really don’t think people have to worry about a overpowered Ultra with easy set ups. It looks like there is one way with strict range and timing and it does good damage, but probably not much more then SRK, FADC, Ultra from vanilla if my guestimates are correct.
yea i feel you i guess it would even out,but c.mk FADC fireball is a great setup though so id expect it to be used in tourneys if this is true.
well on jump ins atleast he can hit confirm into ultra maybe even cross up,so that will be good.and everytime i read your signature i laugh a little inside lol
IF it makes anyone feel better a lot other characters got buffs that should really help out.
I do think that U1 will only be useful against characters who have a projectile or matchups where ryu should play keep away. Other than that I do not see the need to use it.
long reply so thanks bro. but first of all, u need to read the whole post; that is, where and how it all started. basically, u were saying the same thing that other ryu players had said, and i had provided a counter argument for ryu’s moves that were provided by ryu players.
also, i was refering to sf4, not super sf4.
anyway, to recap the situation, rsnake90 said fei could beat ryu as easily as ryu could beat fei since he got all the tools. however, i challenged ryu players to play fei against my ryu and no one could beat my sucky ryu when he chose fei. that was how it all started.
just to piss ryu players
having aduken is advantageous, using aduken is chicken, and abusing aduken is winning.
brucelee-kid
a stfu but dare to main fei in sf4. if ryu players are so courageous and really have skills to win in sf4, then play fei and not chicken aduken ryu. oh yeah, dont say i dont play fei. just admit that u dont play fei cuz fei is not as good as ryu. if u and rsnake90 have admitted that u play ryu cuz he is easier to win, then this topic will not prolong. however, that will not be the case cuz ryu players have the guts to aduken all day but dont have the guts to admit that u r doing chicken aduken tactic. thus, i highly recommend “zoning” to be changed to “chicken adukening” to describe the ryu’s technique precisely.
having aduken is advantageous, using aduken is chicken, and abusing aduken is winning.
brucelee-kid
…lol actually that is the most comical aspect about you. I believe that if you left that last line out then you would have have pissed off many.
i think that was i. however, there is no honor in winning against fei. most ryu can win fei unless u want to prove me wrong by u playing fei against my sucky ryu.
win with honor or win nothing with chicken aduken.
having aduken is advantageous, using aduken is winning, and abusing aduken is winning
brucelee-kid
damn, i would love that quote to be my winning quote.
u want to play with me? u fei and me ryu, just to prove that fei has the skills to beat my sucky ryu. i am on psn only cuz i dont have xbox 360. rrod for xbox360
having aduken is advantageous, using aduken is chicken, and abusing aduken is winning
brucelee-kid
Noone cares that you scrub it up with low tiers dude.
true and that is why ryu players always win against my fei. not becasue ryu players are good, but becasue he has all the advantageous tools to win against fei. therefore, respect my sucky fei since i fight with no gadget and use a low tier player against a high tier player like ryu. lol
having aduken is advantageous, using aduken is chicken, and abusing aduken is winning.
brucelee-kid
The other issue is that you guys are trying to play in lag battles online to prove a point.
you lose against ryu more likely because u suck with fei, more than likely rather than fei sucking. likewise, if i were to face ur ryu with my fei, i would lose, because i never played him outside of trials and arcade mode. no clue how to play him. whereas, i can assume u know how to play ryu, seeing as u played him in turbo, and he’s fundamentally the same, rite? u cant expect to win against ANYONE, let alone ryu without knowin how to play ur own character. if you have a good amount of experience with fei, there’s no reason u really should be losing so consistently with him (jwong comes to mind)
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some vids for example. now that that i’ve attempted to help…
go away. go to fei long thread or sumthin, bitch at them about it, they’ll give u sumthin more productive. yout bitchin here will do nothin. ur not gonna piss anyone off. ur going to annoy them. ur lack of knowledge is irritating. the fact that u try to imply ryu’s fireball as a means to cheap tactics is dumb. most characters have a fairly reliable way to get outta fireball pressure. the fact that fei doesnt have one aside from sumthin that takes meter(which honestly isnt THAT bad…) doesnt make ryu OP, its a flaw within fei. so stop cryin. ur fighting a losing(pointless) battle. do research, practice, stfu. simple rules to follow i would hope…