if he gets that,and they tune him, he would be god tier. I’m sorry, but ryu is so damn balanced, but when everyone else isnt except a few, he easily could make the game feel broken…which is why I main him in the first place.
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do u suspect they will fix his ex tatsu bug?
sometimes, im not sure if its char specific or something to do with spacing, but the ex tatsu will be used on an opponent to end a combo and the opp player will get his twice and end up on the ground right next to ryu crouching ready to punish.
or is that not a bug?
It does not matter how basic he is when all of his tools are so good.
Fix ex tatsu glitch, but make it very punishable on block.
nerf c.mp frame advantage on block. either leave him even frames or at -1.
What is the EX Tatsu glitch?
Sometimes, on certain characters I believe, his EX tatsu will whiff the knockdown hit, leaving your opponent sitting there, ready to block.
I’d really like to see Ryu have his Joudan Sokutou Geri in this game… but honestly, that would be overkill.
I meant that in a sense his moves’ properties are so well known to an extent that almost all players know what to do in order to punish them, what is safe/unsafe, etc.
but i still think he’s a little bit too much in sf4. just saying.
Ruy is fine i guess… But he pisses me off, because everyone is playing with him… start to turtle and mash SRK all the time. I hate it.
Just remove Ryu, Ken and Sagat from the game and I would be happy. =P
I want to see more characters when I play online… I don’t get it that Capcom wants to add 8+ characters to the roster, i mean there are already enough characters but no one uses them… I don’t think that will change with SSF4.
When I play online and I beat a Dhalsim or someone else whos not mainstream, they ALWAYS start to pick Ryu after that.
“If that didn’t work let’s try to turtle and play like the rest of the SF4 community, It’ll be okay.”
Sounds like someone loses to Ryu a lot.
Some people seem to think he’s fine the way he is. Some say he should get maybe one new move or tweak and some hate his guts to where they want him out of the game. It’s all preference, really.
IMO, if other characters were tweaked/buffed/arranged/whatever to where they could be used in high level play ALL the time and be efficient, I think a lot of people would drop their complaints about Ryu and start figuring out ways to beat player’s Ryu strategies, etc.
I’ll use Rose as an example. Rose is probably the least used character, imo. Even Dan gets more use than her (mainly for humiliation tactics). Let’s say that said Ryu is across the screen, zoning you with fireballs.
Any player can just jump over or focus absorb those fireballs, but Rose has another tool that most players wouldn’t really think about: her Soul Reflect. The timing for it is pretty strict, the scarf has to be deployed early to reflect it (or in LP’s case, absorb it.) if you time it a tad later, you’ll still get hit by the projectile.
Another odd case is Soul Throw. It’s treated as a command-throw (if I’m not mistaken, as you can’t use a quick get-up [or whatever the term is for it, I’m having a brain fart atm]). Some air normals, though, will hit Rose in midair and stop her jump from Soul Throw.
Also, Soul Spark and Soul Spiral, notice the huge differences in startup time from the light versions?
If these moves (either just one or two of them) were tweaked to where the timing was less strict on SReflect or where SThrow still grabbed people (possibly using invincibility frames to still grab characters using normals) or where SSpark/SSpiral has less startup, Rose would be a solid Ryu counter-pick or even a solid character in her own right.
I honestly think that other characters have gotten the shaft. But that’s just one example or way to help get around the whole “fuck ryu/sagat” mentality.
Give EX Tatsu better hitting abilities so characters never “Fall out” and can block/punish.
Nerf Jab Uppercut, give it longer recovery so its easier to punish.
That’s all I would do for the character.
Anyone who doesn’t think Ex tatsu is overpowered mains Ryu.
That move should be very punishable if blocked, basically anything maybe short of ultra should be able to punish it.
Right now its 200 dmg, leads to ultra, and safe. Great use in mixups, cost only 1 bar, retarded.
Also all of his 3 frame pokes are pretty dumb. Like I suggested earlier c mp needs to be nerfed a bit at the very least. Why does a character with such amazing zoning ability have such great pokes? So many characters have to work to get in, only to have to now deal with some of the best pokes in the game. C.mp should leave Ryu at even frames at BEST.
Some people seem to think he’s fine the way he is. Some say he should get maybe one new move or tweak and some hate his guts to where they want him out of the game. It’s all preference, really.
Maybe it’s just because i main guile, but i swear for every nerf that i got, he got a buff. People just toss out lp SRK like it’s fun and it’s like a coin flip whether or not you can punish them for it, but people want lariat nerfed? What?
He’s the ONLY character in the game that i can’t think of a weakness for. Balrog and rufus are easy to zone because they have no fireballs,sagat has weak footsies once you finally get in and slow speed, gief has quite a few weaknesses, akuma takes alot of damage and it’s actually possible to hit him…ryu got the best of everything really. The only reason people think he’s fine is because sagat does so much damage and has higher health.
This is why you see him constantly , unlike zangief who everyone seems to want nerfed because lariat is so versatile but forget about SRK
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I will admit that I wasn’t afraid of Ryu until SF4.
Sagat I don’t give a shit about, but I have to damn near meditate before a Ryu match.
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Would you consider Ryu God tier?
No, but once again he’d get alot more attention if it weren’t for sagats damage and health. It’s basically like sagat is a nerf shield for this guy. You address anything that’s wrong with ryu, and they say “well sagat can do this and this” but the difference is that sagat will definitely be changed.
We don’t gotta remove Ryu at all.
SSFIV will change i believe. Due to the fact that the characters will be tweaked . . . i THINK we’ll have a brand new tier list and whomever is on top will be the new main we’ll see online. no doubt about it. And yeap I do face Ryu every championship match ups I get into. Sometimes two to three in a ROW then with a Sagat to finish off lolz. I main Gief so just imagine how many fireballs I had to go through??? :wow:
Who doesn’t lose to Ryu a lot?
80% of my matches are against him, and hes one of the best characters in the game. Probably the best because so many Sagat players dont know what theyre doing anyway. Most Ryu players are actually good.